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Originally Posted by
Jericho
I came back on Sunday from spending a few days in Gwynedd. What I was struck by was the amount of times Liverpool is mentioned on tombstones in remote burial grounds way off the beaten track. Lots of places have a pub called the Liverpool Arms, too. It left me with a strong sense of historical interconnectedness between North Wales and Liverpool that sadly seems to be waning.
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One connection which lasted was the shops and the weekly coach trips people from north wales used to make (think it was tuesday of evry other week????????) to Liverpool. Unfortunbately as Liverpool went downhill in the 70's/80's these stopped or became less frequent and Chester and to some extent, Manc took the trade.
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This is a huge potential market for Liverpool and the city should make a big effort to publicise the new shopping developments to the North Welsh over the next few years and get the people back using their closest big city. It is a fact that they still come for the theatre and football. Maybe the electrification of the line from Bidston to Wrexham will help. You can get a train directly from LLandudno, through Abergele, Rhyl, Flint, Conaughs(sp?) Quay etc to Manc but not here - sad......
Liverpool of course used to be called the "Capital of Wales" simply due to the number of Welsh people living here. Most came from North Wales. Interestingly the bank of North and South Wales was founded in Liverpool with its headquarters in Castle St. It provided much of the capital to fund the Welsh building companies who constructed much of suburban Liverpool in the 19th and early 20th C. This bank was founded by the Naylor family who had a town house in Rodney St. This then became a bank and is now owned by HSBC Bank succesors to the Bank of North and South Wales in Liverpool. One John Naylor and a director of the Bank of North and South Wales went to live near Welshpool, Montgomeryshire and developed the Leighton Hall Estate. He also retained ownership of Walton Hall which he inherited from the Leyland family. The family seem to have used this as their accomodation when living in Liverpool.
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