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PhilipG
10-23-2006, 02:48 PM
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PhilipG
10-24-2006, 03:57 AM
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scouserdave
10-24-2006, 08:38 AM
Philip,
regarding the Cabbage Hall

Cinema, you may appreciate this story I posted to another forum last year....
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This story is strange but true.

I

had to do a bit of business in Old Swan on Tuesday and parked up in one of the side streets. As I was going back to my car, I noticed a building that looked

like an old cinema on Prescot Rd. Decided to take a pic. Just before I took one, I asked the first person I saw if they could confirm whether it was a cinema

or not.

[This is when it gets weird! ]

The gentleman confirmed that it was. It used to be the Curzon Cinema, Old Swan. It turned out that this

chap was the manager of the Abbey Cinerama for 30 years before it closed down in 1979! Previous to that, he was also the manager of the Cabbage Hall Cinema

which is now the LFC Supporters Club. Previous to that, he was the manager of the Stella cinema in Seaforth!

The gentlemen's name is Ambler Ramsden.

The "Ambler" was his mother's maiden name. He's 85 years old and appears as fit as a fiddle. However, he told me I caught him on one of his good days,

healthwise. He'd just returned from the Royal after having a fitting for a hearing aid and had recently recovered from a mild stroke. He informed me that on

his "bad" days, he can barely string a couple of words together.

scouserdave
10-24-2006, 09:11 AM
Forgot to include the pic I took of the Curzon in my previous

post.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/curzonoldswan.jpg

Waterways
10-24-2006, 12:28 PM
Forgot to include the pic I took of the Curzon in my previous

post.

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/curzonoldswan.jpg

Many of these old cinemas are pretty well intact inside. Many

are just not uses as no one can find a use fior the large spaces. A whole theatre was found intact in Glasgow. Most of it was sealed off.

Waterways
10-24-2006, 12:31 PM
Philip,
regarding the Cabbage Hall Cinema, you may appreciate this story I posted to another forum last

year....
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This story is strange but true.

I had to do a bit of business in Old Swan on Tuesday and parked up in

one of the side streets. As I was going back to my car, I noticed a building that looked like an old cinema on Prescot Rd. Decided to take a pic. Just before

I took one, I asked the first person I saw if they could confirm whether it was a cinema or not.

[This is when it gets weird! ]

The gentleman

confirmed that it was. It used to be the Curzon Cinema, Old Swan. It turned out that this chap was the manager of the Abbey Cinerama for 30 years before it

closed down in 1979! Previous to that, he was also the manager of the Cabbage Hall Cinema which is now the LFC Supporters Club. Previous to that, he was the

manager of the Stella cinema in Seaforth!

The gentlemen's name is Ambler Ramsden. The "Ambler" was his mother's maiden name. He's 85 years old and

appears as fit as a fiddle. However, he told me I caught him on one of his good days, healthwise. He'd just returned from the Royal after having a fitting

for a hearing aid and had recently recovered from a mild stroke. He informed me that on his "bad" days, he can barely string a couple of words

together.

The Abbey at Wavertree Clock was a class place inside. The public areas were really ritzy with a large Busby Berkley staircase. I

wonder if it is all still there.

Anyone got a picture of old Plaza in Allerton Rd? Demolished in the 1970s.

The Curzon

Theatre

Built in 1936, and designed by Earnest Shennan, the Curzon was one the few cinema's where 3D films could be seen. The short lived novelty

of 3D would soon be replaced by Cinema Scope and Magnetic Stereophonic sounds pioneered by Twentieth Century Fox.

The grand opening of the Curzon was

at 2.30 pm on the 10th October 1936. The ceremony was performed by Lord Mayor of Liverpool, Councillor R.J.Hall. The auditorium has 1750 seats, upholstered

in amber and a fully carpeted floor that sloped to a crossover gangway from the main stage. The orchestra pit featured the handsome console of the computer

organ that incorporated all the modern advances including the electronics unit. The organ chamber was behind the screen and the large projection room housed

two Kalee projectors, Western Electronic wide range sound system, spotlight lanterns and electrical equipment.

The prices were 6d, 9d, 1s with reduced

rates in the afternoon. The Curzon closed on the 20th August 1960.

Following it's closure, the building was reconstructed into a row of shops. A

similar use of the building continues with the upper parts of the building relatively unchanged from it's days as a

cinema

http://www.mersey-gateway.org/server.php?show=ConWebDoc.1416

scouserdave
10-24-2006, 12:42 PM
First pic I saw in the Abbey that took advantage of "cinerama" was with my

Mum, watching Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines.

Waterways
10-24-2006, 01:07 PM
First pic I

saw in the Abbey that took advantage of "cinerama" was with my Mum, watching Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines.

I saw that in the

Gaumont in Dingle - without cinerama. A big fat man right in the middle kept laughing very loudly all the time. It caught on.

scouserdave
10-24-2006, 01:26 PM
Philip, do you have

any pics of the Paladium, Hippodrome and Majestic? They were my local cinemas as a kid living in Hughes St, L6.

Waterways
10-24-2006, 01:26 PM
Lovely photo of the Curzon.
With my old Zenith

camera I could never seem to get the full width in.

Here's the Plaza on an old postcard.

Plaza, 180 Allerton Road, Liverpool 18.
Architect

A. E. Shennan.
Opened 30 Mar 1928.
Renamed Gaumont in 1950, then Odeon in 1962.
Renamed Classic in 1967.
Closed 18 April 1971.
Demolished. A

Tesco supermarket (now Yates's Wine Lodge) was built on the site.

Shops were built on the site of the Plaza's car park, with a new Classic cinema

being built over them. It opened 11 August 1973.

For some reason I always thought the cinema was further back off the road. I remember it

being the Odeon, then renamed the Classic. Everyone still called it the Odeon. There was a milk dairy behind the cinema. I knew a girl whoes dad owned the

dairy and lived there. The road to the left is a service road and is still there.

The whole area of Penny Lane/Allerton Road had no pubs. A very

large area - odd for Liverpool. The nearest pubs were the Brook House in Smithdown Rd and the Rose of Mossley right up Rose Lane. This has now changed with

the wine bars and the likes along Allerton Road making this road quite an animated place.

PhilipG
10-24-2006, 02:07 PM
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lindylou
10-24-2006, 10:11 PM
To the original person who asked about the

Cabbage Hall Cinema.
Just because no photos exist of the original cinema, it would still be considered good manners to thank somebody who has gone to

the trouble of trying to answer your enquiries.
Luckily, the person who asked about Reynolds' Waxworks has been interested and appreciative, which has

encouraged me to help as much as I can.

is that me ??

I only just read this post tonight (Tues 9pm )- I havn't been on-line for

approx 24 hrs or more. So I've only just seen this.

I am very interested in the Cabbage Hall as my family lived near by. I can very vaguely recall a

relative taking me to the childrens matinee.
I think I might have been age 4 or 5 perhaps .. so it must have been approx 1957 or 58.

Very

interesting to see that old cinema program ... I see that it is listed as being on Townsend lane/Rochester rd. Rochester road, for some reason was changed

to become part of Lower Breck rd which it is still called to this day.
Shame they dropped the name Rochester rd - it sounds nicer. :)

lindylou
10-24-2006, 10:20 PM
Very interesting posts from all.

The Majestic.

I went on my first date there ! :) :)

scouserdave
10-24-2006, 10:34 PM
Palladium, 136 West Derby Road, Liverpool 6.
Opened 10 May 1913.
Architects: Nagington & Shennan.
Closed 1 July

1967.
Demolished 1967 for road widening.

The exterior photo was taken just before it closed, and the interior is dated 1950 (I don't know what's

up with the ceiling!).
Both photos are from the LRO Collection at Liverpool's Central Library.
Philip, you are a star, mate! Many thanks.

PhilipG
10-24-2006, 10:38 PM
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Waterways
10-24-2006, 10:39 PM
This replaced an earlier Majestic Cinema which

had opened on the same site in 1914.

Majestic, Daulby Street, off London Road, Liverpool 3.
Opened 2 October 1937.
Architects: Gray, Evans &

Crossley.
Closed 27 June 1970.
Demolished 1970.
The site is part of the car park of the Royal Liverpool Hospital.

Both these photos are dated

1937, and are from the LRO Collection at Liverpool's Central Library.

I saw Bonnie & Clyde there.

lindylou
10-24-2006, 10:39 PM
I don't remember that one. (The Paladium)

Was it up by the Grafton

end of West Derby rd ?

Waterways
10-24-2006, 10:44 PM
Before I do the Royal Hippodrome, will somebody tell me how I post pics so they are a large size like the beautiful one of the

Curzon?
Thanks in advance.

Hit the quote button. The editor has buttons above. Point to a yellow one that says "insert image". Click it.

A window appears insert the picture adress, click OK. You can preview the picture before committing.

PhilipG
10-24-2006, 10:44 PM
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scouserdave
10-24-2006, 10:45 PM
Before I do the Royal Hippodrome, will somebody tell me how I post pics so they are a

large size like the beautiful one of the Curzon?
Thanks in advance.
Bigging up pictures usually degrades them unless you have certain software.

Probably best if you send them au natural:)

scouserdave
10-24-2006, 10:52 PM
You're welcome Dave.
I didn't mean to offend anybody, but I belong to another group (not

Flickr, which is great) and hardly ever get any acknowledgement that I've even posted, which is very discouraging.
Comfort yourself in knowing

that they are ignorant ****heads. Probably genetic. It's not their fault:)

Your cinema pics are brilliant! You are in good company here

Philip:PDT_Piratz_26:

PhilipG
10-24-2006, 10:53 PM
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scouserdave
10-24-2006, 10:58 PM
Actually, I have to reduce them for this group.
Do I still

go to "Manage Attachments" and do I then go to "Pics from URL" instead of "Pics from Computer"?
I'm scared of anything technical until I know how to do

it! :eek:
Phil, rather than faff around with "advice" post the originals to me and I'll reduce them to 800 x

?
dave@liverpoolpictorial.co.uk :PDT_Aliboronz_24:

Waterways
10-24-2006, 11:11 PM
Lovely photo of the Curzon.
With my old Zenith camera I could never seem to get the full

width in.

Here's the Plaza on an old postcard.

Plaza, 180 Allerton Road, Liverpool 18.
Architect A. E. Shennan.
Opened 30 Mar

1928.
Renamed Gaumont in 1950, then Odeon in 1962.
Renamed Classic in 1967.
Closed 18 April 1971.
Demolished. A Tesco supermarket (now Yates's

Wine Lodge) was built on the site.

Shops were built on the site of the Plaza's car park, with a new Classic cinema being built over them. It opened

11 August 1973.

The film showing on the Plazza is "Vanessa" with Helen Hayes (1935).

PhilipG
10-24-2006, 11:51 PM
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PhilipG
10-25-2006, 12:15 AM
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PhilipG
10-25-2006, 12:21 AM
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Waterways
10-25-2006, 12:58 AM
I managed to follow that up to "insert the URL of the picture".
As far as I know my pics just have a

filename.
(They've been transferred from my camera).

The extension usually has to be .jpg or .gif. It has to be in a location which it

can be accessed from, like on a server. If you have a web site allocated by your ISP, use this space. Or somthing like the free fkr site will do. Download

the file to the photo site and link to there (give the full address (URL) of the photo). The address must be like say Daves for the Curzon:

http://www.liverpoolpictorial.co.uk/curzonoldswan.jpg

Using one of these free photo sites also gives you backup in case your disk

crashes.

scouserdave
10-25-2006, 09:44 AM
Jaw Dropping!
Philip, you are a star Mate!

Thanks

lindylou
10-25-2006, 09:23 PM
That colour postcard of the Hippodrome is brilliant :celb (23):



I remember that cinema well.

Kev
11-06-2006, 06:55 PM
CAMPAIGNERS fighting to save the historic Woolton cinema have issued an 11th-hour appeal for donations.

more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=last%2Dditch-appeal-in-bid-to-save-city-cinema-%26method=full%26objectid=180

52129%26siteid=50061-name_page.html)

Max
11-07-2006, 12:02 AM
Hope it stays, I want

to go to it sometime!:PDT_Piratz_26:

MissInformed
11-07-2006, 06:51 PM
REYNOLDS WAXWORKS

12 Lime Street, Liverpool

1

Reynolds Exhibition can lay claim to being the first establishment in Liverpool to regularly show films. It wasn't exclusively a cinema as

the place was a Waxworks, which had opened about 1858.
Freaks were also frequently put on show.
Reynolds Waxworks showed its first films on

the 31 December 1896, and "The Wonderful Animatoscope Living Pictures" stayed for one week.
Films ("The Cinematograph") returned to Reynolds Exhibition

on 10 May 1897. (They were given equal star billing with "THE LIVING DOLL. A human atom!" This was a 17 months old baby, twelve inches high and weighing

only 22 ounces.) The films then stayed for 19 weeks until 18 September, and it is this period which qualifies Reynolds as Liverpool's earliest (albeit

part-time) film venue.
Films were not to return to Reynolds again for a number of years, but they were a regular fixture by 1910.



"Weekly Courier" 26 March 1910. (Extract).
“The (waxworks) gallery was founded by Alfred Reynolds, the father of the present proprietor, Charles

Reynolds, and the building, with its extensive ramifications, floors and nooks, was originally designed as a temple of Masonry (a Masonic Hall). When it was

nearly ready for occupation a hitch in the negotiations resulted in a dispute, of which Alfred Reynolds took quick advantage, came to terms with the

builders, and speedily opened his "gallery".”

Liverpool Echo, 17 Dec. 1920.
"This morning there has been a deal over Reynolds's

Waxworks, which has changed hands, and will be modernised by Mr Fred Parker, who has left the City Picture House (which was then renamed the Futurist), and

has taken this show-piece."

Photo dated Aug 1921 shows Reynolds Exhibition for sale.

In 1921 - while the

Waxworks was still functioning - there were two separate proposals to convert the building into a cinema. Nothing came of either scheme, and Reynolds

Waxworks was closed in 1922.
In March 1923 the contents of Reynolds Waxwork Exhibition were sold by auction (by Turner and Sons). It was said

that more interest was shown in the costumes than the personalities they represented. Liverpool never did have another Waxworks.
The premises were

reopened in 1924 as Reynolds Billiard Hall, with tables on the upper two floors. The ground floor was used as a tea room, which became the Empress Chinese

Restaurant in the 1950s. The second floor billiard hall reopened as the Marionette Ballroom about 1945, with the first floor continuing as a billiard hall.

Everything closed in 1964 when the building was demolished along with the surrounding property for the Ravenscroft Scheme (St John's Centre).

All the

photos are from the Liverpool Record Office.
The last two also appear in Freddy O'Connor's book "A Pub On Every Corner", Volume

1.



Thank you so much for this! I have only just noticed it on here....it's inspirational in this day and age that somebody can go to

so much trouble for someone else, purely for selfless reasons....

ChrisGeorge
11-07-2006, 07:09 PM
"Another successful cinematographer was Mr. Monti [sic] Williams [James

Monte], who on Westminster Bridge, with his Eragraph camera made by Haydon and Urry, broke all records for the Diamond Jubilee picture of Queen

Victoria by showing it on the same night at the London Pavilion Music Hall for Mr. Felix Glenister, who had an Eragraph projector installed under the

direction of Signor Polverina and Mr. Fred Griffiths. This film was developed and printed at Islington, and the print was dried on top of a horse-cab on its

journey to the theatre. So great was their enthusiasm that the audience with one accord rose and sang 'God Save the Queen,' and insisted on the film being

shown once again. This was not so simple a task as it is now; the film, after showing, was allowed to drop loosely into a basket as there were then no

restrictions from the London County County Council. . . . A second print of this film was also made and wound upon a drying fame, and while still wet was

dispatched by train to Liverpool, where, upon its arrival, it was shown by Mrs. Reynolds at her then famous Waxworks Show in Lime Street at 4 o'clock on the

following morning before a large audience, which had waited all night, and after the first screening went delirious with amazement and delight. The film had

to be shown four times." ("Filming the Diamond Jubilee: A Popular Exhibit," [I]The Times, April 9, 1935, p 19)

From

website on Haydon and Urry Ltd., Makers of the Eragraph Projector & Suppliers to the Fairground Showmen (http://users.nwon.com/pauline/Films.html)

PhilipG
11-07-2006, 07:12 PM
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MissInformed
11-07-2006, 09:00 PM
fantastic stuff!
really grateful for your help.
where do you get your info

from?
central library?

PhilipG
11-07-2006, 09:22 PM
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MissInformed
11-08-2006, 12:49 PM
wow, that is so cool
it all just

fascinates me!
building up quite a collection of Liverpool books myself.
Which is great :)

lindylou
11-08-2006, 01:39 PM
I love it too. Local history is

fascinating. I've been collecting stuff for years and have a few folders full of cuttings and pictures.
The likes of this forum is fantastic for

swapping info.

Brilliant ! :) :)

PhilipG
11-08-2006, 07:30 PM
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MissInformed
11-08-2006, 08:39 PM
yeah the clearance centre is great :)
reid of liverpool on mount pleasant is a treasure trove though! a little expensive, but well worth a treat every pay day!
I used to do research for Liverpool Architecture and Design Trust and spend my days in the archives in central library...what an ideal job!
I held the original book by Dr Solomon in my hands....sigh....he is another one that fascinates me.... old Balm of Gilead inventor....

ayjaykay
11-22-2006, 02:56 PM
That's OK, MissInformed.
I've written histories of all Liverpool's cinemas, but somebody else managed to get his book published first,

Is that 'Picture Palaces of Liverpool' by Harold Ackroyd? That's an excellent book.

Waterways
11-22-2006, 03:19 PM
1966 photo from "Ainscough's Liverpool".

The Mardi was 212 years old when the pict was taken. It was demolished around 1974/75, being 225 years old when demolished. Criminal. Look what they put in its oplace - a multi floor car park.

We have a multi floor car park on the 1700s Kings Dock too, and one on the quays at the early 1800s Princes Dock.

Liverpool still has not grown up, it still has not realised that cars come way down the list. Still very third world in its outlook.

PhilipG
11-22-2006, 05:03 PM
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MissInformed
11-26-2006, 10:41 AM
Does anyone have any pics of the inside of the Gaumont Cinema on Park Road?

MissInformed
11-26-2006, 08:23 PM
great pictures sir

thank you

ChrisGeorge
11-26-2006, 08:25 PM
Hi Philip

Good information and fine photographs. Thank you, Philip!

Chris

shytalk
11-26-2006, 08:45 PM
PhilipG,
Nice piece, thank you.

Max
11-26-2006, 11:50 PM
SEFTON PICTUREDROME

461* Smithdown Road, Liverpool 15
*(The registered address was 459/461. The cinema itself was No 461).

Opened November 1909

The premises are first listed in the 1894 Street Directory, and were then occupied by Joseph Dunn, a car proprietor. (Car Proprietors were people who had horse-drawn carriages, and/or wagons, for hire). Louise Dunn (Joseph's widow?), a car proprietress, is then listed as the occupant until the 1899 Directory.
By 1899 the site was stables for the Corporation Tramways, and was called "Croxteth Mews". It was described thus in "Liverpool Transport", Vol. 1, by J.B. Horne & T.B. Maund:
"There were certainly stables here and probably a bus shed also. For some years after the horse buses finished the Corporation had a cash office on the site, part of which became a fire station in 1906. The site was freehold and occupied 1210 square yards."

By 1907, John Ansonia & Co. Ltd, Motor Bus proprietors, used the building as a garage. They ran a bus service between the nearby Brook House pub and Woolton, but this stopped in January 1909.
The building was converted into a cinema for the Weisker Brothers. They had leased the premises, and were pioneers in the business of showing films. The former stables reopened in November 1909 (not 1911 as stated elsewhere) as the Sefton Park Picturedrome, with a horses head on the frontage to remind patrons of its former use. (The head is still there.) Apart from being one of Liverpool's first cinemas, it was also probably the smallest with only 275 seats. The first manager (and Licensee) from 23 November 1909 until 1911 was Charles Morrison Riby. In May 1911 he became the manager of the brand-new Birkenhead Picturedrome.

Following Government legislation in December 1909 which had resulted in the introduction of "The Cinematograph Act", 11 January 1910 was the first date that cinema licenses were issued in Liverpool. Premises wanting to show films could not then do so without a cinema licence. Before that date only a music licence was needed (for the piano, or orchestra. The licence issued in November 1909 was for Music only). The Sefton Picturedrome (as it was officially called) was one of 18 Liverpool premises to be granted a cinematograph licence on 11 January 1910.
In 1911 the Weisker Brothers were still the Lessees with Harry Hunter being the Manager (until about 1915). Performances were twice nightly, at 7 and 9, and Matinees were held every day at 3. Afternoon tea was served at all Matinees free of charge to adults in the Tip-up seats (the more expensive ones). There was also "a cosy waiting room provided in Lidderdale Road for Patrons, hence no standing in the cold or wet".
By 1915 the name had been simplified to the Sefton Picturedrome, and it was about this time that the proprietor became A. Sydney, with the lessee and manager being somebody called Nahpthali J. Price, who held the position for about two years.

During 1918 the cinema was enlarged to incorporate 2 garages at the rear. The seating capacity was increased from 275 to 452, and the projection room (behind the horse's head) was enlarged. The work was officially recorded as starting in February 1918 and finishing in August 1918, and was described as an "extensive alteration". The Lessee and Manager of the cinema was then William John Hughes, who ran the cinema until 1928.
In advertisements in one of Liverpool's newspapers, the "Evening Express" in 1922, it was the "Sefton Picture House. The Little House with the Big Reputation".

The Cameo opened in 1926, and the Plaza opened in 1928. Both cinemas were about one mile away, one to the east, and the other to the west of the Sefton. All three were to become Gaumont British (GB) houses.

In March 1928 the Sefton was one of nine Liverpool cinemas to be taken over by Denman Picture Houses, soon to be part of Gaumont-British. Seven of the cinemas were the T.H. Hughes circuit, and the eighth was from the New Century circuit. It isn't clear where the Sefton came from. Presumably W.J. Hughes was related to T.H. Hughes, and it was allied to that circuit. It must have been part of a job-lot because it was the first of the nine properties GB decided to close. This they did in 1929, before they closed the Century in Mount Pleasant and the Dingle Picturedrome, both in 1930. Miss Nellie Hewitt was the last manager of the Sefton, and when it closed she became the manager of the Rivoli in Aigburth Road for a year or so.

It has been said that the building became a penny-bazaar after it closed as a cinema. Perhaps it did, but I haven't been able to find any hard proof. The ledgers of the Building Surveyor's Department record the "Conversion of Cinema into Garage" and this work was carried out during November/December 1935. During the last war it was occupied by "Llama Ltd" who were manufacturers of knitted goods. They were there until the 1950s (ie from c1942 to at least 1952).
"Handyman's Supermarkets Ltd" had the building by 1961 (perhaps earlier) and they are still there (2006).
At some stage what had been the screen end of the building was demolished (after it had ceased to be a cinema), presumably when the school in Lidderdale Road was extended to occupy the demolished part of the former cinema. The building is once again about the same size it was when it opened as a cinema in 1909, and from the street (apart from the plate-glass window) it probably looks very much like it ever did.

In February 1922 plans were submitted of a 2,000 seat cine-variety theatre which it was proposed to build directly opposite the Sefton Picturedrome, on the corner of Gorsebank Road and next door to St Columba's Church. The applicant was a John Morris Griffith who lived in Sydenham Avenue. The architects, Rees & Holt, had drawn up the plans, and there was a garage on the site. Mr Griffith withdrew his application in March, and submitted amended plans in June 1922 of a smaller cinema, with 1,500 seats, again designed by Rees & Holt. This was never built, and there is still a garage on the site. Mr Griffith had just been responsible for the building of the Trocadero cinema in the City Centre. It was Liverpool's largest cinema when it opened in April 1922. It too was designed by Rees & Holt.

There was another unrealised project for a cinema close to the former Sefton - in June 1936. It was to be on the corner of Smithdown Road and Greenbank Road and was designed by A. Ernest Shennan for Bedford Cinemas (1928) Ltd. There would have been a total of 1,960 seats. The building would also contain an organ, a Tea Room & Lounge on the first floor, and a car park. It was to cost £50,000. In May 1937 it was recorded that there were no objections to the cinema, and that the plans had been passed, but in November 1937 it was recorded: "(that) as six months has now elapsed, I write to say that the erection of this cinema has not yet been commenced." The Mabel Fletcher Technical College, Greenbank Annexe was built on the site. In 1999 that building was empty and for sale. More recently a Tesco Express store and a couple of other shops have been built on the site.

The B&W photo is the earliest I have ever seen of this building.
It's early 1970s, and is from the Liverpool Record Office.
The others were taken today (26 Nov).

Not far from my house.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

I go to Tesco too much.

marky
11-27-2006, 11:40 PM
I took a pic of this building before it was re-painted (to send to Toxteth.net). It looks near identical to the B+W pic from the 1970's. I'll post it here when I reduce its' size a bit...probably tomorrow. Apart from the modern lampost, this could be from anytime in the previous 30+ years.

PhilipG
11-28-2006, 02:25 AM
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marky
11-28-2006, 03:12 AM
@PhilipG I'm only tinkering with Flickr at the moment but some pics are at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25632502@N00/

Re: cinemas...didn'nt the Rivoli (Aigburth rd) show movies in its' post-theatre days?

Here's one of the Jamesy which I think is from the Library records archive site

PhilipG
11-28-2006, 11:39 AM
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Waterways
11-28-2006, 12:42 PM
Re: cinemas...didn'nt the Rivoli (Aigburth rd) show movies in its' post-theatre days?


Where was that?

PhilipG
11-28-2006, 01:10 PM
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ChrisGeorge
11-28-2006, 02:28 PM
I took a pic of this building before it was re-painted (to send to Toxteth.net). It looks near identical to the B+W pic from the 1970's. I'll post it here when I reduce its' size a bit...probably tomorrow. Apart from the modern lampost, this could be from anytime in the previous 30+ years.


I may have missed this but what is the horse's head building going to be used for now that it has been rehabbed?

Chris

PhilipG
11-28-2006, 02:47 PM
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marky
11-29-2006, 10:39 AM
The Rivoli has been the 'Grace Family Church' for a few years. This was the church of Anthony Walker before he was killed.
The date stone states 1889 AD

I'll take a close-up of the Smithdown road Horse head next time I'm around ...there's only a few 'beast heads' still around (the horse at Sefton Park Mews and the Garston sheep head are others)

PhilipG
11-29-2006, 11:21 AM
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marky
12-08-2006, 06:43 PM
The wood panels have lasted a long time, eh. I passed there the other day but it was pouring down so I didn't take a pic. The top half had been painted, but the bottom half of the building looked untouched. All the scaffolding had been removed. The horse head looked nice. I'll get a pic soon of it looking brand new.

Ged
01-12-2007, 12:38 PM
Philip, I was driving from Huyton through Dovecot, citybound having just passed the old Page Moss terminus and where the Eagle & Child used to be (many a fight gone on in there if folklore is to be believed)

I think it is East Prescot road. I saw this massive Art Deco Cinema type building on my left which now has the sign Dovecot Academy on the front. Looking up I noticed that the two faces, the happy one and sad one associated with theatres was set in stone. A magnificent building, do you know the one i'm on about, i'm sure you will or someone on here will.

There's also a great row of shops on a curve, again very art deco with a clock tower. I suppose the locals don't even notice these buildings but I thought they were so full of character as oppossed to what came later.

Ged
01-12-2007, 01:14 PM
That's the one Philip. It doesn't half go far back as well. Look at that washing hanging out, very tenementesque.

Ross08
01-12-2007, 07:54 PM
Just along from the old Granada is the Mecca Bingo - a new purpose-built hall.
I take it the club moved here from the old Granada.

The funniest thing about this is that right opposite the new hall is 'Gala Close' and of course Gala are a rival bingo operator.

This is just a little observation I made the other day. :)

theninesisters
01-12-2007, 09:42 PM
Philip,

Do you have any pictures of the Cinema on Paddington in Edge Hill??

PhilipG
01-12-2007, 09:49 PM
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Ged
01-12-2007, 10:52 PM
Philip. You mentioned on the other thread that 46 would have been on the right. Wouldn't it have been on the left?

PhilipG
01-12-2007, 11:12 PM
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Ged
01-12-2007, 11:26 PM
You've got some great pics and info there Philip. Pity you didn't get a chance to get your Cinema book out, especially as you say there are some misquotes and omissions of pics in the one that came out.

The Gardens
01-13-2007, 01:29 PM
Phil, the picture of the old Adelphi, did you scan it in? If so, is there any chance you could post a higher resolution copy?

A.D.W
01-14-2007, 04:44 PM
14th January 2007.

Woolton Picture House.

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/citysouth/woolcine/bwc1401078.jpg

http://www.liverpoolviews.co.uk/citysouth/woolcine/bwc14010710.jpg

marky
01-24-2007, 01:40 AM
Somerfield (Abbey Cinema), Church Road North

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 02:00 AM
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lindylou
01-24-2007, 02:55 PM
PhilipG, any chance you might know what year the Cabbage Hall cinema (now the LFC supporters club) was built?
Also, any info on an old cinema that my great grandmother used to go to on Utting ave. I can't think of the name. It might be where Taskers Sports shop is now. That shop looks like it could have been a former picture house.
Do you know it?

Gnomie
01-24-2007, 03:03 PM
Lindy it was called The Ritz-opened 16th March 1929

lindylou
01-24-2007, 03:09 PM
Brilliant ! Thanks Gnomie.

My granmother used to tell me how her mother would put on her hat and gloves and take a walk down to the Ritz to see a film .. I remember the name now that you've reminded me. :handclap:

Imagine how in those days (1920s) the women would wear hat & gloves to go to the cinema. :) :)

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 03:19 PM
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Gnomie
01-24-2007, 03:21 PM
The Bedford Walton off County road.

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/bedford.jpg

Bedford.

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/bedford2.jpg

The Carlton Green Lane Tuebrook.

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/carlton.jpg

The Curzon Old Swan.

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/curzon.jpg

The Gaumont Anfield.

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/gaumont.jpg

The Gosvenor Stanley Road

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/grosvenor.gif

The Olympia West Derby Road.

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/olympia.jpg

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 03:29 PM
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Gnomie
01-24-2007, 03:32 PM
Demolish the Bedford - no bloomin way. how could they pull down such a great building:disgust:

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 03:43 PM
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Gnomie
01-24-2007, 03:47 PM
Well i hope it gets saved.

Keep us posted Philip.

lindylou
01-24-2007, 05:30 PM
Thanks for the info Gnomie and Philip.

That's a great picture of the Olympia - you can see what a fine building it is from that view standing back from it.

The Bedford looks like it's been a lovely place in it's day. I've passed it many times but not taken too much notice. Now I've seen it here, I realise that it's very nice and must be saved.

The Gaumont in Anfield - I was nearly born in there !! My mum was watching a film there and went into labour ! :shock: :D

Philip, approx a couple of years back the Gaumont (or Lighthouse as it's now known) held a community open-day and showed old film footage of some of the old cinemas and also some history of the Anfield and Everton/Breckfield area. Did you attend by any chance ? I can't remember the date but it was in the summertime I think. Thought that maybe all cinema buffs would be interested.

I was there with my mum, We listened to some interesting tales and memories from the older folks about the old days.
We should have spoken up and said that I was almost born in that cinema, but we were too shy ! :) :)

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 05:43 PM
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lindylou
01-24-2007, 05:54 PM
Thanks Philip :handclap:

did you have a coffee and a snack afterwards ? We might have been at the same table. :) :)

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 06:25 PM
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MarkA
01-24-2007, 09:17 PM
Just over the road from The Curzon in Old Swan is what looks like another old cinema. The only other cinema I can see listed for Old Swan is The Regent so it could be that. I'll have to go back in daylight to get better photo's...

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/itsmma/DSCF0677.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j248/itsmma/DSCF0675-1.jpg

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 09:24 PM
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MarkA
01-24-2007, 09:27 PM
Ta Phil.

Ross08
01-24-2007, 10:22 PM
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lindylou
01-24-2007, 10:47 PM
Thanks for posting the Gaumont pics Philip. You're a marvel what you come up with :handclap: :handclap: ... all I need now is for you to magic up a pic of the old Cabbage Hall. :D

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 11:36 PM
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Ross08
01-24-2007, 11:38 PM
I've said this before, but I really want to see the ABC in Lime Street brought back into use.

This would be great for '08. It's nine years this month since the cinema closed and externally the building looks fine.

I'd love to see the inside of this place. What could be done with it?

A nice sports bar? Quite possible.
Some sort of cinema museum? Seems very unlikely but I'd love it
A small casino / arcade? Nice idea - the one at Queen Sq. is good though.

With the big '08 banner, it's easy to forget about the architectural beauty of the former Forum / ABC.

PhilipG
01-24-2007, 11:47 PM
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PhilipG
01-24-2007, 11:51 PM
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Ross08
01-25-2007, 12:36 AM
That banner is disgusting.
Capital of Culture indeed! :disgust: :disgust: :disgust:
The ABC is a Listed Building, and if we can't see the interior, we should at least be allowed to see the exterior.


That's gonna be our Capital of Culture surprise. They'll take the banner off like a red curtain revealing our 'new building for 2008', hoping we'd all forgotten it was behind the banner. LOL :)

wendyanne
01-25-2007, 04:00 AM
Thanks to everyone who has posted pictures of the old Cinemas in Liverpool, they bring back so many great memories:)

ayjaykay
01-25-2007, 09:39 AM
I've said this before, but I really want to see the ABC in Lime Street brought back into use.

This would be great for '08. It's nine years this month since the cinema closed and externally the building looks fine.

I'd love to see the inside of this place. What could be done with it?



There are some photos inside the ABC in 2006 here: http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=4651

PhilipG
01-25-2007, 11:34 AM
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ayjaykay
01-25-2007, 12:04 PM
Yes, that's very true. They're interesting photos, though I'm not sure I approve of the way they were obtained.

Max
01-25-2007, 12:10 PM
The Odeon On Allerton used to be the ABC too.

Last film I remember seeing In the ABC On Lime Street was Waynes World 2.:celb (6):

Might of been the Nutty Professor though.

I deffo saw WW2 there though.

lindylou
01-25-2007, 02:06 PM
This is where we came in, Lindy! :celb (23):
I've never seen any pics of the Cabbage Hall before it was altered.

Yes, I remember. :) No pictures of the old Cabby. :sad:

lindylou
01-25-2007, 02:11 PM
Yes, that's very true. They're interesting photos, though I'm not sure I approve of the way they were obtained.

I had a look at those pics too.

What a terrible waste and such a shame to leave that cinema like that.
The Futurist over the road is the same - but probably in a much worse state -as Philip said.

It will be a crime if they take away the ABC. Surely they wouldn't !! ??

(nothing would surprise me tho' ) :disgust:

Max
01-25-2007, 02:23 PM
I wouldn't mind taking pics like they did but I'd have to make sure the Bizzies didn't see an open door.

snappel
01-25-2007, 02:39 PM
It's interesting that they say the building is secure. :disgust:
Obviously not secure enough! :eek:
They broke in - that's obvious by the fact that the only illumination is from the camera's flash, and they hide their faces.
Besides, if you read through the thread, they admit as much.
If they can get in, anybody can, and you only have to consider the Futurist over the road where the interior is wrecked so completely that the building will have to be demolished.
And that was caused more by intruders than by the weather.
I have to say, comments like this piss me off, as they're often attributed to my own explores.

I can assure you 100% that these people didn't break in. The reason it took them so long to get in there is because they were not prepared to break in. And when have you ever seen my face? If you look at any of the 100s of explores on that forum documented by me, you won't find my face on any of them. Purely because if people are going to start making unresearched accusations, it only makes things worse.

As it happens, I know the way in they took, and ingenious as it is, it DOES NOT involve criminal damage of any kind, and is not openly accessible to the public. In short, that building is as secure as it needs to be. It's extremely doubtful that anybody could get in who intends to cause the building harm.

Yes, intruders do a lot of damage in some cases, but the guy who took those pictures is a well-travelled 'explorer', and is not your average chav with a camera phone. He's taken some very good photos, is a nice guy and I resent reading stuff like that written about him. He's doing this kind of thing just like I am.

I will, however, say this: I appreciate your sentiment, and the angle you're coming from. I've stood in places and felt totally distraught surveying the debris from vandalism. Earlier this month I returned to the fantastic Tate & Lyle conveyor tower to find it ransacked. Original 1950s decore wrecked, hand painted and numbered porcelain fuses smashed, rare control panels ripped out. It's heartbreaking.

Because of this, I can understand your despair, but I have to say, that cinema is pretty bl00dy secure. I know this, as it's the reason why I (and the many others who have expressed an interest in exploring it) have been denied for so long.

In summary - that forum does not promote vandalism of any kind. It's owners and moderators are my friends, and they ruthlessly remove from it anyone who would vandalise, break, set fire or grafitti a building.

We've worked with the Police to help investigate damage to buildings (including a similar cinema burnt down in London), tried to get buildings listed and even cleaned up places we've explored. Please don't group us in with the mindless yobs who destroy our historic buildings - we're like chalk and cheese.

Excuse the rant, but I had to...

Ged
01-25-2007, 03:27 PM
Good on yer.

scousedave
01-25-2007, 03:33 PM
Agree with Snappel about the guys from 28days (http://www.28dayslater.co.uk/forums/index.php). None of them have bad intentions and never leave the place they visit in a worse state. Very talented people. There's very few people I'm in awe with, but most of them are over there.

However, that doesn't mean I disagree with Phil. I think Phil's moan was about the scumbags who break into places and vandalise them for their so called own enjoyment. They need clubbing like they do with seals.

snappel
01-25-2007, 03:51 PM
Yes Dave, and I'd be happy to join in with the clubbing!

As I said, my problem is when people just assume that it's 'breaking and entering' - that's narrowmindedness, and gives us a bad name. Some people are of the opinion that without permission you should never go anywhere, but then so much would be missed.

I have a list as long as your arm of places that only got photographed prior to demolition because of 'urban explorers'. There's so much that is lost that we never realise. If the ABC is converted, who will have photos of it's interior in the final days? Likewise search on the web for photos of the inside of Stanley Dock warehouses, the Royal Infirmary, Spillers flour mill (which, as it happens, I got to a bit late), Royal Iris, Everton Library etc - you'll find most of them were taken by people like me, the cinema guy, our own scouserdave, etc!

Just because you didn't get permission, or you walked past a 'no entry' sign, it doesn't mean you vandalised, 'broke in' or otherwise damaged a property.

Ged
01-25-2007, 04:18 PM
But I like seals.

PhilipG
01-25-2007, 04:28 PM
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scousedave
01-25-2007, 04:41 PM
you'll find that plenty of good interior shots have already been taken, in much better lighting conditions.
Phil, you forgot to include the link to all these good interior shots that you are aware of.

snappel
01-25-2007, 04:47 PM
Regardless of that, you still state that they 'obviously' broke in when they didn't. About 2 years ago, before I did much exploring in Liverpool, I knew loads of people who went in that cinema. For a good while, most groups of friends I had/met there was someone who'd been in there, to drink cider, mess about, whatever.

As for the photos... The guys just wanted to have a record of their exploration, they weren't out to try and win some kind of competition. Are you a pro-photographer? No? Does that mean I should criticise all of your photos, and likewise, you mine? Their photos being nothing special does not automatically justify your comments.

I wonder about this nation, I really do. All these people harking on about 'the good old days' and 'when I was a lad', but seriously the problem today is sheer stupidity, ignorant 'pigeon holeing' and a complete lack of ability to think for oneself. It doesn't just come from the kids, it comes from the older generations too - makes me wonder if half the problems are due to the kids being misunderstood... (not that I am one anymore, but I refuse to 'grow up' and stop playing in old buildings)

PhilipG
01-25-2007, 04:48 PM
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scousedave
01-25-2007, 04:53 PM
Why didn't these "Urban Explorers" go to the closing night and take pics then?
Possibly because it wasn't closed down at the time? Just a guess.

snappel
01-25-2007, 04:57 PM
Every weekend, thousands of people walk round the town centre, going to the same shops, the same cinemas, carrying the same crappy bags fully of crappy designer clothers and other rubbish. Tourists go to the same museums and attractions, the same hotels, the same theatres. Sports fans go to the same stadiums, the same events, the same gyms. On hand are Police to tell you if you're going somewhere you shouldn't, signs to say where you can and can't go.

Does it never get boring? Do you never get the urge to go somewhere unknown? To break away from the endless ant-trails and go somewhere interesting, where you don't know what's there?

Yes, lets go to libraries, tours, museums, 'closing nights', let's let others do the hard work.

We'll just sit here and be spoonfed.

scousedave
01-25-2007, 05:11 PM
Phil, regardless of your views, don't you even get the slightest frission of excitement when the likes of Snappel post their unique pics?

PhilipG
01-25-2007, 05:34 PM
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snappel
01-25-2007, 05:38 PM
No, we agree on that point. It's wrong to break into a building and leave it vulnerable to whoever else wants to go in. I didn't dispute that. Rather, I resented you accusing me or my friends doing that. If you haven't understood that by now, then you never will.

As far as I know the Futurist was damaged by vandals, who probably broke in. I wanted to get in there to see it firsthand, but finding no open door or window, it wasn't possible. Hence a lack of photos/report on my website.

EDIT: Having re-read your last comment, I see that in itself is intended as an accusation. You really are an ignorant fool aren't you?

PhilipG
01-25-2007, 08:18 PM
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snappel
01-26-2007, 12:43 AM
Clearly you don't know what the definition of 'breaking' is. Last time I went into my local Tesco I wasn't given permission, but the doors were open - I went in. Did I break in? If I'm calling you names, it's because I'm being descriptive.

You're right though - we're going round in circles and you're clutching at straws. My whole point was that you don't need permission to enter a building - British Law states as much. Who said the 'snappers' had permission - they didn't! But they didn't break in either - do you not see how that's possible? No? Then I'll say again, you're an ignorant fool. That's not name calling, that's being descriptive. Get it?

Max
01-26-2007, 01:01 AM
Whats happened to Dave?


Phil, regardless of your views, don't you even get the slightest frission of excitement when the likes of Snappel post their unique pics?

I find It cool that snappel gets up all those Cranes

steveb
01-26-2007, 01:26 AM
Whats happened to Dave?



I find It cool that snappel gets up all those Cranes

He sure does, and never breaks into cranes :celb (23):
Iam new to this forum, but my opinion is with out UE,s many places would
be converted, knocked down etc without any documentation of what they
looked like. ABC Lime St, have you tried to get permission to photo inside ?,
I did and was told not a chance, like many places.A lot of the damage is caused by people stealing things, arson, flooding etc, but also by the owners
themselves just letting the building rot. Anyway nthat is my 2d,s worth.
Back on topic has anyone found a pic of the old Cabbage Hall Cinema prior
to LFC supporters club takeover. My grandmother, Gladys Knibb, was in the
ticket box there for many years and I remember going on a Saturday armed
with a few jam jars as my entrance fee..


steveb

Max
01-26-2007, 01:33 AM
Seems I mixed up Scouser Dave with someone called ScouseDave.

PhilipG
01-26-2007, 10:16 AM
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snappel
01-26-2007, 11:02 AM
I'll put it another way. The only 'offence' they committed was trespass. This is not a criminal offence, and so is not breaking criminal law. The building did not suffer, neither did it's owners. The building is still as secure as it was before they entered. Just because you can't see the way in, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You are not an all-seeing eye.

If you want to persist in your accusations, then do so, but I tend to look for concrete evidence before doing so, rather than using ropey 'conspiracy theory' style assumptions ("Oh, I can't see how I could be wrong, therefore I must be right"). No wonder this World is in such a state... it's not really any different to saying someone is guilty of a crime because they look like they did it. No different to invading a country because they 'must be up to no good'. Mr Bush would love you!

ayjaykay
01-26-2007, 11:53 AM
The building is still as secure as it was before they entered.

But if they (and you) know that the building is not fully secure (i.e. there is a way in), why don't you let the owners know so they can make it MORE secure? That would be the responsible thing to do.

Ged
01-26-2007, 12:15 PM
What about that one on Stanley Road Phil, a massive grey roof on it now, it's a packaging firm. Just past Bankhall.

PhilipG
01-26-2007, 12:25 PM
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snappel
01-26-2007, 12:38 PM
But if they (and you) know that the building is not fully secure (i.e. there is a way in), why don't you let the owners know so they can make it MORE secure? That would be the responsible thing to do.Now that's a sensible comment. The reason in my case is because I like to explore places, and I'm not going to make it impossible for others. Security of the buildings remains the responsibility of the owners.

However, if a historic building is at risk from being damaged, then it's possible I'll do this. I was, in fact, contacted recently by the owner of a building I'd explored, and was accused of breaking in. When I pointed out to the owner how I'd got in (door, wide open, hinges rusted solid and unmoved for years), the embarassment was on him. Too often building owners are blase, and don't bother to check the places for themselves.

In many cases, such as the Rover car factory, the photos being posted on the web 1) highlighted the security flaws and 2) made the owners secure the buildings properly before any damage/theft could occur.

A recent tragedy was the offices at the Coalite plant in Bolsover, where the place was wide open and the entire company archives (going back to the late 1800s) was strewn about. I contacted two local record offices, and neither were much help. I then contacted the official receivers of the company to ask for the documents, but they were less help still. Last weekend I went back, to find the offices burnt out and all the documents lost.

In short, you'll never stop the vandals. People like me will get in if there's a way, but if there isn't we stay out. A few weeks back I had friends up from the Midlands, who wanted to do Royal Insurance building and the Victoria clocktower. Both had the 'entrances' boarded up so we left disappointed, but thankful that the buildings were safe. Incidentally neither of those were vandalised during the time they were 'open'.

If vandals want to get in somewhere, they'll break a window or smash a door, lob in a petrol bomb or wreck the exterior.

(In the case of the cinema though, there is a locked door between the public and the building - the trick is finding the person with the key ;))

ayjaykay
01-26-2007, 12:49 PM
(In the case of the cinema though, there is a locked door between the public and the building - the trick is finding the person with the key ;))

I'm curious now! There isn't a door between the cinema and 'Worlds Apart' next door is there?

steveb
01-26-2007, 02:30 PM
The Commodore.
Opened 1930.
I'll do some of the surviving former cinemas.
Most of the demolished ones (since 1982) are on my flickr page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/sets/72157594265619936/

Have you got any pics of the Gem?


Hi
like the pic,s pity they don't show any inside shots. Still looking for pic of what the Cabbage Hall cinema looked like prior to LFC supporters club, see
my previous post

steveb

Max
01-26-2007, 02:43 PM
25 January.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/369756851_8253b5c6c0_o.jpg

My mum sends me In their from time to time.:( :(

DIY= Pure evil.

lindylou
01-26-2007, 09:30 PM
has anyone found a pic of the old Cabbage Hall Cinema prior
to LFC supporters club takeover. My grandmother, Gladys Knibb, was in the
ticket box there for many years and I remember going on a Saturday armed
with a few jam jars as my entrance fee..


steveb


it's a pity that there are no pictures available. I'd love to see the old Cabbage Hall cinema.

steveb
01-26-2007, 09:57 PM
it's a pity that there are no pictures available. I'd love to see the old Cabbage Hall cinema.

Hi

yes there has to be at least one somewere. I will contact LFC sup club
as maybe the architect or someone has one, might ask LRO as well

steve

scouserdave
01-26-2007, 10:25 PM
Perhaps if somebody can find the whereabouts of Ambler Ramsden? See post three in this thread. I know he lives in the Old Swan area.

PhilipG
01-26-2007, 11:16 PM
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steveb
01-26-2007, 11:28 PM
The architect was Ernest C. Aldridge.

Hi
don't mean the architect of the origional cinema. When LFC supporters
opted to change the front, no doubt they would need planning consent, so
they would need plans to submit to the council, this is the guy I need whoever drew up the plans....

steve

PhilipG
01-27-2007, 11:00 AM
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steveb
01-27-2007, 12:38 PM
I gave the original architect's name because there is a chance that his family may have photos. (Only trying to help!).
Why should the architect for LFC have photos of the old cinema?
His plans would only show how the building was going to be altered.

If you are going to the LRO, it might help you to remember that that part of Lower Breck Road was called Rochester Road.

If you do find any photos, please share them.

Hi
no offence intended, many thanks. it is usual practice for architect,s to photo
stuff prior to converting whatever, sort of before and after.
OK on Rochester Road when did the name change ?.

steveb

scouserdave
01-27-2007, 12:54 PM
Hi
no offence intended, many thanks. it is usual practice for architect,s to photo
stuff prior to converting whatever, sort of before and after.
steveb
Agree Steve. I've taken on a number of jobs for developers where I take shots of a building from various locations and elevations. They then get sent to the architect. In some cases, they'll superimpose renders over my image and send them to the Council for planning permission. It may also be worthwhile calling John Jacobson in the Council's Architects Department.

PhilipG
01-27-2007, 01:03 PM
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steveb
01-27-2007, 02:09 PM
Agree Steve. I've taken on a number of jobs for developers where I take shots of a building from various locations and elevations. They then get sent to the architect. In some cases, they'll superimpose renders over my image and send them to the Council for planning permission. It may also be worthwhile calling John Jacobson in the Council's Architects Department.

Hi
many thanks, yes I will contact the council. I have been in touch with LRO
I was just interested in when the name changed to Lower Breck, purely being
curious, or nosey :)

steveb

steveb
01-27-2007, 02:14 PM
I don't know when the name changed, but that doesn't matter.
If you go to the Search Room in the LRO, and ask for photos of both streets, the cinema just might be seen.
Remember you'll need ID, as you'll get issued with a ticket.

Hi
thanks for the Info. As you probably known the city engineers collection
of photo,s, some 20,000 of them, are available on a CD, about £8 I think
steveb

ayjaykay
01-29-2007, 12:17 PM
I'm curious now! There isn't a door between the cinema and 'Worlds Apart' next door is there?

Should I take the lack of reply as a 'yes'? :)

Ged
02-04-2007, 03:51 PM
The Paramount in Fraser Street, now the Bar De Mille and one that might interest PhilipG, The Gilmore in Manchester Street.

PhilipG
02-04-2007, 04:53 PM
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The Gardens
02-04-2007, 05:04 PM
The police investigating the explosion at the Gilmore described it as one of the biggest blow jobs they had ever seen!

MissInformed
02-04-2007, 05:11 PM
:) now now boys

steveb
02-04-2007, 05:54 PM
Hi
remember I was looking for info/pic,s of the Cabbage Hall cinema, well
update so far, no pic,s were submitted with the planning aapplication
to alter the front. I got an email from LRO saying she would send me by post
photo copies of some stuff relating to it, so watch this space

Kev
02-17-2007, 10:22 PM
Here's some old pics u may find interesting courtesy LCC archives:

PhilipG
02-18-2007, 12:28 AM
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Ged
02-21-2007, 11:59 AM
Phil, are there any pics of Cinemas you are missing? It's just that I have books concerning other buildings and sometimes there's a cinema in the shot too but don't know if you've got it?

PhilipG
02-21-2007, 12:15 PM
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Gerard
02-21-2007, 12:20 PM
There's quite a few, Ged.
Thanks for asking.

I'd love to see photos of the long-gone flea-pits, like the Princes in Granby Street, the Lytton in Lytton Street, the Coliseum in Paddington, the Kings Hall in Oakfield Road (the Gaumont was built on the site), the St James (before the front was rebuilt), the Savoy in West Derby Road, and the Picture Playhouse in Smithdown Road.
And the Cabbage Hall before it was altered for the LFC club.
So far I haven't seen any photos of any of the above which were all open by the time of WW1.

Later cinemas which have remained elusive on photos are the Walton Vale Picture House, the Popular in Netherfield Road North, the Burlington in Vauxhall Road, the West Derby Picture House, and the original front of the Ritz in Utting Avenue.

I've got photos of most of the others which I don't mind sharing.

There are other cinemas, like the Everton Palace, where the only known photo is very poor.

Central Library have a good collection of most of the 1930s cinemas.


Phil,Have you got any of The Gaiety..Spelling!!..that was on Scottie Rd please..
Or you Ged..please.

Ged
02-21-2007, 12:35 PM
Bunked in the Odeon to see Oliver 41 Times..Thats gorra be some kinda record !!


That's because you wanted 'More'.

Ged
02-21-2007, 12:38 PM
I'm sure Phil has and I think there are two I have, i'll post them up tonight if Phil doesn't beat me to it. I think they're in the Terry Cooke book Scotland road - my neighbourhood and Freddy O'Connor's book My city - my heritage. Gaiety is correct spelling too Gerard, my mam and dad called it the Gayo.

PhilipG
02-21-2007, 12:40 PM
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Gerard
02-21-2007, 12:45 PM
That's because you wanted 'More'.

Ooohhhhhhhh...
:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Ged
02-22-2007, 09:20 AM
Gerard, just tried to upload the pic but like many i've tried on here, it's so many KB which exceeds the MB for the file type for this forum.

I'll bring the pic along on sat. It was positioned on Scotland Road, almost opposite Gay Street which is how I suspect it got its name then.

Ged
02-22-2007, 10:35 AM
IMG]http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/3269/gayokl3.th.jpg[/IMG

Ged
02-22-2007, 10:36 AM
Just tried something there and it obviously didn't work - ay oh.

Gerard
02-22-2007, 10:44 AM
Thanks Phil and Ged for the Photos and Info.. Much Appreciated Lads.

Gerard
02-22-2007, 11:21 AM
I've never seen any photos of the Gem by anybody else.

It was a converted factory and opened in 1926 as a cinema.
It closed in 1958, and was then used as St Sylvester's Parochial Club.

The B & W photo was taken in 1982 and shows the remains of the decorative plaster.
The other was taken in 1986 and shows the blocked-up windows of the Victorian building.

It's been demolished.


:handclap: :handclap: ..Great pics Phil.

Max
02-22-2007, 11:41 AM
Somerfield (Abbey Cinema), Church Road North

Somerfield used to be a Cinema!:eek: :eek:

Ged
02-22-2007, 12:04 PM
I've never seen any photos of the Gem by anybody else.

It was a converted factory and opened in 1926 as a cinema.
It closed in 1958, and was then used as St Sylvester's Parochial Club.

The B & W photo was taken in 1982 and shows the remains of the decorative plaster.
The other was taken in 1986 and shows the blocked-up windows of the Victorian building.

It's been demolished.

Went in there when it was 'Sillies' - Great pics, even if they're not the classic picture house type building.

PhilipG
02-22-2007, 09:22 PM
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A.D.W
02-22-2007, 09:54 PM
I've just been told that the Woolton is to reopen.
I've no further details at the moment.
Does anybody know if it's been mentioned in the local papers?

The article was in the Daily Post on Monday or Tuesday of this week.

lindylou
02-22-2007, 09:54 PM
Somerfield used to be a Cinema!:eek: :eek:

Yeah, I went there to see 'The Greatest Story Ever Told' :)

A.D.W
02-22-2007, 10:00 PM
The article was in the Daily Post on Monday or Tuesday of this week.

From the Liverpool Echo online. Historic cinema is saved from the axe - February 20th 2007 (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=historic-cinema-is-saved-from-the-axe%26method=full%26objectid=18647264%26siteid=500 61-name_page.html)

steveb
02-22-2007, 10:41 PM
From the Liverpool Echo online. Historic cinema is saved from the axe - February 20th 2007 (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=historic-cinema-is-saved-from-the-axe%26method=full%26objectid=18647264%26siteid=500 61-name_page.html)

This is very good news, makes a change for a building to be saved
and not Tescoised......

scouse smurf
02-23-2007, 12:46 AM
Anyone got any photo's of the one in Waterloo ? I know thats become a bit of a save our cinema project for quite a few years now. Nice to see it's still open, well it was last time I was down that way

scouse smurf
02-23-2007, 01:28 PM
Thanks Phil, thats the place.

I spent many a day in there watching the jungle book or herbie goes bananas. I think my auntie really liked them and wanted an excuse to go see them every year. lol

PhilipG
03-03-2007, 12:53 PM
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Ged
03-03-2007, 01:38 PM
.....and how do you know about them? <smiley of finger tapping bod>

PhilipG
03-03-2007, 02:15 PM
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PhilipG
03-03-2007, 02:18 PM
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PhilipG
03-03-2007, 02:54 PM
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knowhowe
03-03-2007, 04:17 PM
Any north-enders remember the Regent in Crosby? On Crosby Road opposite the end of Endbutt Lane. It became a bingo hall years ago, and still was the last time I passed that way.

We queued up for two hours to see Cliff in 'Summer Holiday' there!

christy
03-09-2007, 01:44 PM
Just a brief mention of the "Adult" cinemas in Liverpool.

The Jacey in Clayton Square (1963 to 1972), formerly the News Theatre and Prince of Wales. The Jacey was technically still a "proper" cinema rather than the other four listed here where you had to be a member.

The Tatler Cinema Club, later Eros Cinema Club in London Road (1969 to 1983), formerly the Essoldo and Kings, and various other names.

The Tatler Cinema Club in Church Street (1969 to 1972). This was the famous Tatler Cartoon Cinema.

Converted premises were the Gilmore Cinema Club in Manchester Street (late 1970s to 1985) and the Adult Book Centre Cinema Club in Sweeting Street (early 1980s).
Were't there 2 adult cinemas in London Roas? Sure I remember passing one next door to the hamburger bar that exploded? Where the 'container shops' are now. The other one you show in the pic was next to or close to Harris's (best toy shop ever!) toys wasn't it? Remember walking past on the way into town from Kenny.

phredd
03-09-2007, 06:29 PM
I remember a cinema on West Derby Road (opposite Ogdens) but can not remember the name of it.
The Hippadrome comes to mind but I am not sure.
Phredd

PhilipG
03-09-2007, 06:33 PM
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phredd
03-09-2007, 06:49 PM
That would be the Palladium.
There's pics of it on page 1 of this thread (#16).
The Hippodrome was nearer Town, next to Gregson's Well.

Missed them on page 1 = thought they were avatars lol.
Thanks for that. I had them both the otherway round.

Thanks Philip

PhilipG
03-11-2007, 11:32 AM
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PhilipG
03-11-2007, 08:42 PM
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scouserdave
03-11-2007, 09:28 PM
Bernard Fallows' website (http://www.bernardfallon.com/photo/Liverpool%20Home.html) is up and running including the images used in the exhibition.

Here's one of the Jacey
http://www.bernardfallon.com/photo/The%20Images_files/LP-40-24-JaceyNativity-FINA.jpg

nancy o.
03-15-2007, 11:21 PM
Here's a New Brighton photo (Victoria Road?) from the 90s--the building to the left looks like it may have been a cinema. Or a bank. Any ideas? I would be very surprised if it were still standing.

Ross08
03-15-2007, 11:49 PM
The above cinema was indeed in Victoria Road, New Brighton...

Known as 'The Trocadero', this cinema opened on 1st June 1922 and closed suddenly on 22nd September 1956 with only a few days warning.

I have a book - THE SILVER SCREENS OF WIRRAL, published 1990 which says that 'The Troc' now serves as a supermarket. I would say that it was demolished in the early to mid nineties. It certainly does not remain to this day.

PhilipG
03-15-2007, 11:53 PM
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johno
03-22-2007, 01:14 AM
Went to see the good the bad and the ugly there when it first came out.
Thought we were cool in our Ben shermans and comos shoes.

begsy
03-22-2007, 06:52 AM
We were cool JOHNO and I saw the same film at the same cinema. spooky:cool:

PhilipG
03-22-2007, 11:02 AM
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XL391
03-22-2007, 11:26 AM
Fantastic to see!! :handclap: I always said I was going to go there and never ever got the chance. No excuse now!! :celb (23):

Incidentally Phil, do you have any pictures of the Albany/Astra in Maghull? Loved that place as a lad. Distraught when it came down. When was it knocked down?

XL391
03-26-2007, 10:28 AM
Thanks pal! Some great memories of that place... :tear:

Ged
03-29-2007, 12:52 PM
According to Warren Bradley on Radio City last night, the East side of Lime st from next door to the Crown to next door to the Vines is not being demolished as previously reported on here. He said the council or English heritage to own most of that side including the 2 cinemas are looking at doing it up. He slated the shop owners on the Concourse House frontage though regarding the cpo delays, saying he thought they'd been offered adequate prices/re-locations (but if the Edge Lane residents are anything to go by what is adequate in his mind and theirs is obviously different...)

scouserdave
03-30-2007, 10:50 AM
Nice touch:)
Queen crowns reopening of famous old cinema

"A RED carpet, the National Anthem and The Queen all made for a real sense of occasion as Woolton Cinema reopened its doors to the public last night.

Guest of honour was the venue’s very own honorary monarch – Beatrice McKenzie, an 84-year-old resident of the village who has been going to the cinema since its very beginning in the 1920s."
[More] (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/entertainment/previewsandreviews/tm_headline=queen-crowns-reopening-of-famous-old-cinema&method=full&objectid=18830883&siteid=50061-name_page.html)

PhilipG
03-30-2007, 11:08 AM
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PhilipG
03-30-2007, 11:24 AM
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marky
04-01-2007, 05:51 PM
The ABC Lime St. got a brief mention in the Liverpool Echo (p14 31/3/2007)
Just a bit of waffle about it getting interest from 20 developers...officials offered a "blank canvas", whatever that means. It did mention that they had toured the building.

PhilipG
04-01-2007, 09:10 PM
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Ged
04-06-2007, 12:41 PM
That's a good un'.

Gnomie
04-06-2007, 01:10 PM
The Regent, Old Swan.



This is also Old Swan. any idea what it was? just checking in case it has Cinema links.

PhilipG
04-06-2007, 01:46 PM
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Gnomie
04-06-2007, 01:56 PM
Cheers Phil. A dole omg i was way off:)

Post your pics anyway, more the better.

Tony.

steveb
04-07-2007, 12:50 PM
Thanks for all the pic,s and Info. I still have not found any pic,s of the
Cabbage Hall Cinema prior to LFC supporters club buying it. I have very few
details of it. I have tried the records office, no photo,s, LFC museum no info
city planning dept, city architects dept and loads of cinema groups both in the UK and worldwide, not a thing. Maybe one of the new members has a pic
It is very strange that no photo,s seem to exist

PhilipG
04-07-2007, 12:55 PM
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Gnomie
04-07-2007, 01:22 PM
I love these pics, well done Phil :handclap:

I think i have one of the Carlton in Tuebrook somewhere.

Gnomie
04-07-2007, 01:25 PM
Here you go

The Carlton.

PhilipG
04-07-2007, 01:40 PM
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Ged
04-07-2007, 01:45 PM
Yes Phil, a dog's dinner of a mess now. You can just make a bit of it out as the Derby here. It's now Coynes and my mam and dad were buried from there. The pic is by Brian Martin. You can hear an ex resident of Wilbraham House (which is next door) talking about the penny matinees in there (when it was the Derby of course - not Coynes :unibrow: )

steveb
04-07-2007, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the info, Yes I remember the Carlton and bowling alley, used to
got there a lot, don't know if it is true or not but I heard that EMI still own
the Carlton. Iam surprised no one has been inside it as unlike the bowling alley
it seems in tact

steveb
04-07-2007, 01:53 PM
Unfortunately, it's not that strange.
Apart from the "Super" cinemas of the 1930s they were rarely photographed when they were actually operating as cinemas.
I'll try and compile a list of photos of pre 1930 Liverpool cinemas that I've seen (when they were cinemas).
There won't be many!

OK Phil, thanks. As I have said before I used to live in Winchester Rd which
is just round the corner from Lower Breck/Rochester Rd, and my Granny used
to work the ticket box in the "Cabby".

PhilipG
04-07-2007, 01:54 PM
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Gnomie
04-07-2007, 04:51 PM
Brilliant pic phil. i never saw it like that.

American werewolf . cool:)

PhilipG
04-07-2007, 04:56 PM
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scouserdave
04-07-2007, 05:47 PM
Great pic of The Carlton, Phil. It was our local despite living in Canny. Never called it the ABC, so I reckon The Carlton name just stuck after 1963. Can't remember the last film I saw there, I was in London by the time American Werewolf in London came out. Most memorable film I saw in The Carlton was Clockwork Orange, not only for the subject matter, but also because I had my first Kentucky Fried Chicken meal afterwards, purchased nearby on West Derby Road.:)

drone_pilot
04-07-2007, 07:19 PM
The Futurist as she is today.
http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/futurist.jpg

Gnomie
04-07-2007, 07:27 PM
Nice pic Drone

I heard all that block is to be knocked down. is this true? if so what are they putting there.

PhilipG
04-07-2007, 09:49 PM
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Felicity
04-08-2007, 01:58 AM
I came upon this website and thread earlier today (or was it yesterday now!) and have found myself saddened as well as delighted to hear people talking about the wonderful picturehouses that used to populate our fabulous (!?) city! It seems amazing to me that so little interest is shown by the powers that be (oh how we hate and despise them.............) in these extraordinary places of specific community and public importance. I know that the age of the tv has altered the way that we see films, along with the advent of the video and now the dvd, but even so, surley they are more than worth celebrating and preserving for historic as well as architectural reasons?

I remember the Hippodrome, and the cinemas on Aigburth Road so well, as well as the Gaumont in Dingle, and I seem to remember there was one in Garston?

Also, the mention of the Tatler was special, as when I was a child of course I was not allowed to go there........ Then there was the Palladium on Fraser Street, now the Bar de Mille. I remember my mother and father going to see a "significant" Brigitte Bardot x-rated film there, I think it was "And God Created Woman", and after mother telling me how sad she was I wasn't allowed to go with them, because the support was a film of Picasso painting on glass viewed from below so you saw the whole process! I eventually saw it about 20 something years later, after I had been to Art College - it is stunning!

I haven't seen any mention of the cinemas on Walton Road. Have I missed it by skimming through the thread or does noone remember the Astoria near Everton Valley, (which was only knocked down about two years ago, I think???), and the Victoria, I think it was, on the other side further along towards Spellow Lane, and there was another one, the name of which is escaping me at the moment.

Although I was brought up in Speke, my grandparents lived off Walton Lane and the three cinemas on Walton Road were regular haunts of my childhood.

Anyone know anything about them?

Fxx

PhilipG
04-08-2007, 02:14 AM
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Felicity
04-08-2007, 04:20 PM
Hi Philip,

Thank you for that. It's funny but as woke up this morning, I thought "the other one was the Queens"!! And there is your reply with it in!

No, I wasn't thinking of the Tatler. What was the one on one of the other streets off London Road, linked to the Continental on the Wirral - think it had been a theatre too, started by a famous British actor?? If I don't think about it it will come back to me!

Felicity

Ged
04-08-2007, 06:02 PM
Felicity. You're either thinking of the Shakespeare theatre, Fraser Street or the Gaumont, Camden street.

PhilipG
04-08-2007, 09:20 PM
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DaisyChains
04-08-2007, 09:36 PM
this is a brilliant thread.

I have a photo somewhere of the opening night of the film 'The Ghost Train' starring Arthur Askey, and I am sure it is the Odeon Cinema on London Road, I can't remember now.

I will get it up in the next few days.

Gerard
04-08-2007, 09:48 PM
Hello Felicity and welcome to the forum.

If you follow the link to my flickr page, below, you'll see a set of "Demolished Cinemas" and a set of "Former Cinemas: Still with us" where some of the ones you mention are featured.
However, I haven't got photos of either the Queens or the Victory (both in Walton Road).
I think you've got the building in Fraser Street mixed up with the Tatler in London Road.
The Fraser Street building was only offices for the Paramount Film Company.


The Paramount building on Fraser St..Now a Kurdish restaraunt.
This photo was taken on the site of the Gaumont picture house on Camden St.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/ANY%20PHOTOS/DSC01422.jpg

Gerard
04-08-2007, 09:56 PM
The Odeon London Rd.
This was taken outside what was the Gaumont main entrance on Camden St.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c60/gedfleming/ANY%20PHOTOS/DSC01428.jpg

PhilipG
04-08-2007, 09:56 PM
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Gerard
04-08-2007, 09:58 PM
Thanks, Gerard.
I don't like the way they've mucked up the windows.

Your welcome Phil mate..I dont like the way they closed the Bar De Mille !!..Lol.

(EDITED) ..Sorry Phil..its been a Kurdish restaurant about a 6/8weeks..
Im not sure if its open yet.

theninesisters
04-08-2007, 09:58 PM
The Carlton opened in 1932.
Architect: A E Shennan.
Lords), the rest of the complex is now derelict.

April 1982.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/234/449439872_909de9df70_o.jpg

You may laugh at this question Phil as you may have churned out hundreds already (and in which case, it'll be a massive DOH to me) but have you ever thought of writing a book on Liverpool Cinema's? You have some amazing pics!!

Gerard
04-08-2007, 10:01 PM
You may laugh at this question Phil as you may have churned out hundreds already (and in which case, it'll be a massive DOH to me) but have you ever thought of writing a book on Liverpool Cinema's? You have some amazing pics!!


Fantastic photo Phil...Well said Jona Lad..Get that book out Phil.

PhilipG
04-08-2007, 10:06 PM
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Gerard
04-08-2007, 10:08 PM
That's a sore point, Jona! :PDT_Piratz_26:

Harold Ackroyd & I were both in the library at the same time researching cinemas, and the staff told him about me, and told me about him, so I always thought he rushed his book out.
I still want to do something about the earlier cinemas because he made a lot of mistakes.
(Let him sue me!) :eek:


Yeahh thats the attitude Phil Lad...Mother F@)&^% !!

DaisyChains
04-08-2007, 10:26 PM
That's a sore point, Jona! :PDT_Piratz_26:

Harold Ackroyd & I were both in the library at the same time researching cinemas, and the staff told him about me, and told me about him, so I always thought he rushed his book out.
I still want to do something about the earlier cinemas because he made a lot of mistakes.
And he could have included much more pictures.
(Let him sue me!) :eek:

Just because there is one book Phil (well 2 I think, but just an update) don't let that stop you! You have fantastic info and pics. There are tons of books on most subjects.... what counts is that they are informative and correct!

PhilipG
04-08-2007, 10:42 PM
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theninesisters
04-08-2007, 10:44 PM
That's a sore point, Jona! :PDT_Piratz_26:

Harold Ackroyd & I were both in the library at the same time researching cinemas, and the staff told him about me, and told me about him, so I always thought he rushed his book out.
I still want to do something about the earlier cinemas because he made a lot of mistakes.
And he could have included much more pictures.
(Let him sue me!) :eek:

Go for it mate! As long as you don't have to prove endless copyright issues and you know for certain that your photo's are your own and all the copyright legal stuff is OK'd by whoever's info you are using then if you can't join em, beat em!

There has been one book about the Williamson Tunnels which was truly bad and written on little more than hearsay, another one is due out by a founder member of one society, and Jona is in the middle of writing THE book which has all the real information from verified sources, pictures of all the area and about 4 portraits of Williamson himself :PDT11

skgogosfan
04-09-2007, 08:43 PM
I haven't seen any mention of the cinemas on Walton Road. Have I missed it by skimming through the thread or does noone remember the Astoria near Everton Valley, (which was only knocked down about two years ago, I think???), and the Victoria, I think it was, on the other side further along towards Spellow Lane, and there was another one, the name of which is escaping me at the moment.

The Astoria was a wonderful-looking building,I was very sad to see it go. I wrote off to try and get it listed but to no avail. Oh well...

Dave.

drone_pilot
04-09-2007, 10:27 PM
Can anyone help me out, I seem to remember a cinema in the early 70's in Liverpool I think it was in the James street area (I may be wrong) all it showed was cartoons, Thanks.

steveb
04-09-2007, 10:30 PM
Can anyone help me out, I seem to remember a cinema in the early 70's in Liverpool I think it was in the James street area (I may be wrong) all it showed was cartoons, Thanks.

Not thinking of the Tatler are you ?

PhilipG
04-09-2007, 10:37 PM
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drone_pilot
04-09-2007, 10:43 PM
Thanks for the info.

Gnomie
04-10-2007, 01:31 AM
That's a sore point, Jona! :PDT_Piratz_26:

Harold Ackroyd & I were both in the library at the same time researching cinemas, and the staff told him about me, and told me about him, so I always thought he rushed his book out.
I still want to do something about the earlier cinemas because he made a lot of mistakes.
And he could have included much more pictures.
(Let him sue me!) :eek:

Go for it Phil

I love taking pics of old cinemas, i know nowt about them but i love the buildings. your input here has been an education to me and i thank you for it mate.

lindylou
04-10-2007, 01:49 PM
Smashing pic of the Astoria. It certainly was a fine building.
We'll never see the likes of cinemas like that again.

DaisyChains
04-10-2007, 05:21 PM
Sorry if this has been said, but does anyone know when the Cameo Cinema was demolished?
Also, does anyone have any pics? Other than the black and white one that is often shown.

Jericho
04-10-2007, 08:31 PM
Unfortunately, some of his mistakes have become "Facts".
He says the Woolton Cinema opened on Boxing Day, 1927, because an old lady told him she thought it opened then.
There is now a plaque on the building with that date, and they're going to have an 80th birthday this Boxing Day.
I've told them it can't have opened before 28 January 1928 because that was the day it got its "Ingress and Egress" certificate.
That's to do with the number of entrances and exits, and it wouldn't have been allowed to open before then.

But will they listen to me?
Will they hecky thump!
You see, they've got a date to latch on to, and I can't give them another.

I would certainly buy a book about cinemas in Liverpool - especially if it had lots of pictures of the interior/exterior of the buildings and provided information about what films were popular at what time and something about the cultural relevance of cinema in Liverpool plus information about movies shot in or featuring Liverpool and Liverpudlian film actors etc. In other words a wider canvas, not just pictures and a thumbnail account of each cinema.

I wonder how much Ackroyd made on his book. My guess is that it's more a labour of love than anything else

PhilipG
04-10-2007, 08:43 PM
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Kev
04-10-2007, 08:46 PM
If you are in the majority on this site in not liking to see photos and a thumbnail sketch, then I won't waste my time doing them.
I wonder what other people think?

Of course not Phil, u keep up the good work mate :PDT11

robbo176
04-10-2007, 08:51 PM
Of course not Phil, u keep up the good work mate :PDT11

Ditto what Kev says:PDT_Piratz_26:

Gerard
04-10-2007, 08:51 PM
Of course not Phil, u keep up the good work mate :PDT11


Here Here...Keep em coming Phil Lad..
And well done mate for all enlightening us all with your fantastic postings. :handclap:

Jericho
04-10-2007, 08:57 PM
Jericho, who said a history of Liverpool cinemas is going to be a thumbnail account and pictures?
If you're referring to a history which I might write, which seems to be the case, don't jump to conclusions about how it might be done, just because that is all I've done on this site.
I think you'll find that on a general interest forum like this pictures and a potted history is all that is required.
You'll find that on a couple of occasions (Central Hall, Mount Pleasant and Reynolds) I have gone into detail.
If you are in the majority on this site in not liking to see photos and a thumbnail sketch, then I won't waste my time doing them.
I wonder what other people think?

I was actually talking about Ackroyd's book. I like the way it's produced and the pictures he includes but some of the thumbnail sketches leave me wanting more.

DaisyChains
04-10-2007, 09:10 PM
:) Keep up the good work Philip, and everyone else!

PhilipG
04-10-2007, 09:21 PM
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Steven
04-10-2007, 09:29 PM
These photos are absolutely brilliant and I thank you for sharing them.

Steven
04-10-2007, 09:56 PM
I love to see photos of the Park Palace in Mill Street and the St. James (The Jamie) in St James Street, near to the Davy Lewis.

Jericho
04-10-2007, 10:20 PM
And by thumbnail sketches, you're referring to me!
Obviously, a lot of what I've found out reflects what Harold Ackroyd has written, because history is history and the facts (not mistakes) remain the same, but I stand by my statement that his was rushed out, and the reprint didn't correct the mistakes.
That is why the three venues I mentioned that I did in more detail (Reynolds, Mount Pleasant and Central Hall), are either not mentioned or barely mentioned by Mr Ackroyd.

If you read my post dispassionatley you will see that I am making an argument for a more in depth book than the one provided by Harold Ackroyd. Whilst I like the production values of his book, his thumbnail sketches in terms of the information they convey become a bit repetitive towards the end. His book is at its best when it offers more depth and brings a cinema alive. Personally I was hoping for much more about the Mayfair on Aigburth Road. His account starts well with an excellent photograph of the exterior but the two, just slightly larger than a postage stamp, shots of the interior were a big disappointment. There was no sense of first hand knowledge of such a beauty conveyed by his text which read for the most part as though it had been gleaned from a publicity leaflet.

PhilipG
04-11-2007, 08:15 AM
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PhilipG
04-11-2007, 08:43 AM
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robbo176
04-11-2007, 11:40 AM
If colour photos of the Cameo are rare, I've decided to identify this one as mine.
Which is something I don't usually do.

Webster Road, Liverpool 7.

Photo: March 1986.

Built 1887 as a Welsh Chapel.
Converted 1926 into a cinema.
Closed 1957.
Warehouse.
Disused.
Demolished sometime before 1991.
Housing built on the site.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/455005717_3ef1805819_o.jpg

thanks for posting the picture of the Cameo I used to live in Webster Rd until I was 5
Mandy:)

Ged
04-11-2007, 11:44 AM
Haven't been on for a few days Phil so just catching up on this thread. Like the others on here, I second them, get that book out. If it's half as good as your Tram Ride to Dingle then that'll do me and at least we know we'll be getting facts.

PhilipG
04-11-2007, 11:47 AM
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DaisyChains
04-11-2007, 05:41 PM
If colour photos of the Cameo are rare, I've decided to identify this one as mine.
Which is something I don't usually do.

Webster Road, Liverpool 7.

Photo: March 1986.

Built 1887 as a Welsh Chapel.
Converted 1926 into a cinema.
Closed 1957.
Warehouse.
Disused.
Demolished sometime before 1991.
Housing built on the site.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/455005717_3ef1805819_o.jpg

Brilliant pic Philip
I think colour photos of the Cameo ARE rare. I have never seen another pic of the cinema other than the normal b and w one usually printed/shown.

AK1
04-12-2007, 11:26 AM
The Carlton opened in 1932.
Architect: A E Shennan.
Renamed ABC Tuebrook in 1963.
From 1980 to 1982 it was independently run and was renamed the Carlton, but closed suddenly in December 1982.
An ABC Bowling Alley had been built next door, and the rear stalls of the cinema was converted into a Painted Wagon pub (both in the 1960s).
Apart from the pub (now Lords), the rest of the complex is now derelict.

April 1982.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/234/449439872_909de9df70_o.jpg

A developer has recently been granted planning permission to demolish the later 70's addition to the cinema which you can see on the right hand side of the original building (formerly the venue nightclub). They have planning permision to build three blocks containing around 50 apartments and some shops on the ground floor.
The good news is that there are rumours that the same developer wants to buy the cinema, restore it and convert it into apartments! Far better than it just being left to rot.:)

Ged
04-12-2007, 11:48 AM
Phil/AK1 - was this called something to do with wagon wheels or paint your wagon or something similar in the late 70s/early 80s - I remember passing it going to Millbank College up the road.

PhilipG
04-12-2007, 12:11 PM
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lindylou
04-12-2007, 07:52 PM
Phil/AK1 - was this called something to do with wagon wheels or paint your wagon or something similar in the late 70s/early 80s - I remember passing it going to Millbank College up the road.

Yeah it was Ged. :) 'Paint your wagon'
Anyway, the pub changed it's name to 'The Lord Warden' (I think that's the right name - it's Lord something or other.)


The Venue club on the other side - Green lane - was originally a bowling alley - I used to go occasionally when I was a kid.
Then it got changed into a night club - 'The Coconut Grove' which was a cabaret club in a similar style to The Wookey Hollow. :)

steveb
04-12-2007, 08:57 PM
Yeah it was Ged. :) 'Paint your wagon'
Anyway, the pub changed it's name to 'The Lord Warden' (I think that's the right name - it's Lord something or other.)


The Venue club on the other side - Green lane - was originally a bowling alley - I used to go occasionally when I was a kid.
Then it got changed into a night club - 'The Coconut Grove' which was a cabaret club in a similar style to The Wookey Hollow. :)

Yes you are correct, I also went to the bowling alley. I heard a rumour
that the Carlton is still owned by EMI, and as the pub is part of it, the building
inside the cinema maybe in good(ish) condition...

PhilipG
04-12-2007, 09:06 PM
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marky
04-13-2007, 10:13 AM
The Venue had a notice (Feb 2007) which stated...Acquired by SABP LTD for future development.

AK1
04-13-2007, 12:01 PM
The house next to the venue which used to be a youth hostel has been completely gutted. I hope it's not being demolished. Anyone got any pics?

drone_pilot
04-13-2007, 05:11 PM
Is the weatherspoons pub in Kensington realy a Cinema

http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/jpg0012.jpg

Ged
04-13-2007, 05:34 PM
That looks like a fine building and shows that i've been dricing with my eyes closed :eek:

PhilipG
04-13-2007, 05:56 PM
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ChrisGeorge
04-13-2007, 06:39 PM
Hi Philip

Any relationship between the old Rialto, damaged in the Toxteth riots and later demolished, and the Kensington Picturedrome or is it just that the architecture is somewhat alike?

Chris

http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/images/rialto%201959.jpg

1958 view of the Rialto Cinema, Upper Parliament Street (on the left). Courtesy of Toxteth.net (http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/upper%20parliament%20street.htm)

PhilipG
04-13-2007, 06:58 PM
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PhilipG
04-13-2007, 07:05 PM
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ChrisGeorge
04-13-2007, 07:14 PM
Hi Philip

Any relationship between the old Rialto, damaged in the Toxteth riots and later demolished, and the Kensington Picturedrome or is it just that the architecture is somewhat alike?

Chris

No Chris, no relationship between them.
I'm surprised you missed my piece on the Rialto in toxteth.net, with a photo taken a week after the Riots.
I watched it burn, and it's true that the fire service didn't attend.

Ged, do you want to use it for your "Towers"?

http://www.toxteth.net/places/liverpool/general/rialto.htm

A sad, sad, picture of the Rialto after the riot, Philip. Thanks for directing me to the photograph. I had not seen it before. :(

Chris

shytalk
04-13-2007, 08:27 PM
PhilipG.
Do you remember how the dome glistened like gold the next morning. If the scallies had known it was copper it would have been gone years before.

PhilipG
04-13-2007, 08:41 PM
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Ged
04-14-2007, 04:34 AM
Thanks Phil, yes i'll use that,do you know what the High rise were called? Have to do a bit of :034:

Here's a couple of pics I found just now in Freddy O'Connor's - A pub on every corner. Don't know if you've got them from this angle so I posted them up anyway.

The Lyric Super Cinema and The Homer.

Max
04-14-2007, 02:36 PM
Opened 1939.
Architect: A E Shennan.
In 1964 it was converted into Merseyside's only Cinerama cinema.
It closed in 1979 for conversion to a supermarket.
Twin cinemas were installed, but there were no takers, and the space became a bingo hall.
Snooker has since replaced bingo.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/184/457829519_f503835b26_o.jpg

Somerfield = Crap Food.

It's the best part of Godvertree though.

theninesisters
04-15-2007, 09:21 PM
Somerfield = Crap Food.

It's the best part of Godvertree though.

2248


Source - http://liverpool.ndo.co.uk/wavsoc/books/

Ged
04-24-2007, 03:34 PM
Have you seen this Phil. Probably nothing you didn't know already though mate.


http://www.catalystmedia.org.uk/issues/misc/articles/cinema_history.php

PhilipG
04-24-2007, 08:50 PM
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steveb
04-25-2007, 12:08 PM
A question. Can anyone tell me what was the cinema in Almonds Green
now a super market I beleive.

PhilipG
04-25-2007, 06:48 PM
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steveb
04-26-2007, 02:47 PM
It was the West Derby Picture House.
It opened in 1927 and was renamed the Plaza in 1955 and closed in 1960.

Thanks Phil, another one off my list

PhilipG
04-26-2007, 03:21 PM
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steveb
04-26-2007, 03:51 PM
You're welcome, Steve.
What list is that?

Your photo is quite old.
When was it taken?

The photo is around 1984. Iam trying to find details/photo,s of all the
old Liverpool cinemas, some buildings as you know look like cinemas, but
wern't. I live just off Townsend Ave and there are a good few old cinema
buildings by me, Taskers, Regal Broadway and the one, now a childrens
play place on Townsend ,think it was the Clubmoor, no pic,s of this though
as a cinema....

Ged
04-26-2007, 04:00 PM
Some of those Bethel churches and the like look like cinemas but weren't.

PhilipG
04-26-2007, 04:08 PM
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steveb
04-26-2007, 04:27 PM
Have you seen my sets on my flickr page. (see link below).
There's "Demolished cinemas" which are my photos taken of former cinemas that went after 1982. I think that's almost complete.

And there's "Former cinemas - still with us". That's far from complete.

Is it that you just want to take photos of the remaining buildings?
I'll make out a list of addresses.
Or........?

OK if you could make a list maybe on my travels I could re photo them.
Idealy I would love pic,s of when they were cinema,s, tall order. I have
the usual stuff from LRO but a lot of small cinema,s were never archived.
Plenty of time, so no rush

PhilipG
04-26-2007, 04:32 PM
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Ged
04-26-2007, 04:38 PM
I drive past loads of former cinemas on my travels but I assumed you had them all Phil. If you or Steve want me to take any on the Litherland, Bootle, Kirkdale, Anfield route, i'm always down that way each weekend and lots of times even further afield.

Ged
04-26-2007, 04:40 PM
Phil, it's a long shot but worked for me looking for my stuff now and again.

There are lots of aerial photos of Liverpool taken in the 1930s. You can usually zoom in on these once saved, have to tried looking for any that way?

PhilipG
04-26-2007, 04:51 PM
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steveb
04-26-2007, 07:01 PM
Steve, in this thread, there's a list of cinemas that I've never seen photos of.
Page 8. Post 152.
And it gets even more difficult finding photos of any when they were actually operating as cinemas, apart from the 1930s super cinemas.

Had a look and it is pretty much what Iam after. The Ritz Utting Ave
now Taskers Sports, I will contact Taskers t o see if they have any
pix prior to them altering the front. The Clubmoor Piture House Townsend Ave
not see any of it as a cinema, Cabbage Hall arggggg, the pain of my life, spent ages all to no avail looking for a pic as a cinema, tried all over, LRO
LFC, planing dept, cinema treasures, etc, etc. Only one on I think it is
Smithdown is this

steveb
04-26-2007, 07:03 PM
I drive past loads of former cinemas on my travels but I assumed you had them all Phil. If you or Steve want me to take any on the Litherland, Bootle, Kirkdale, Anfield route, i'm always down that way each weekend and lots of times even further afield.

Thanks for the offer, but it is OK as I have pic,s of what most look like
now, it is the oldies when they were open as cinemas, thanks again

PhilipG
04-26-2007, 08:55 PM
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steveb
04-26-2007, 09:17 PM
That thumbnail is the New Premier Cinema in Prescot Road, near Green Lane.
That photo was dated 1959, just after it closed as a cinema.
The building is now one of Liverpool's official grot spots.
All the front was demolished and it became a pub called the Premier.

I haven't seen any photos of the Ritz as a cinema.
The Clubmoor appeared in a local paper when it was new, so I took a photo of the microfilm screen.
I've got it on a disk somewhere & I'll post it when I find it.

If Taskers do have any pics of the Ritz, ask them if they've got any of the Capitol in Overton Street, Wavertree, as they built a new building on that site.


OK will do, yes went past the premier the other day a right mess.

PhilipG
04-26-2007, 09:47 PM
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steveb
04-26-2007, 10:02 PM
Thanks Phil
I remember the Clubmoor now, I was 12 in 1960 and lived up the road
in Winchester Rd. 1960 seems to be the year most Liverpool cinemas
closed down. Have been in touch with Taskers, so will let you know
the outcome. My avatar is the new toy, a Fuji S9500 9Mp with 28 to 300
zoom and macro that works down to 1CM

PhilipG
04-27-2007, 12:10 PM
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Ged
04-27-2007, 12:31 PM
Have you got the Lido, Belmont road, as the Lido Phil as I came across it (not literally though) in a book I have yesterday.

lindylou
04-27-2007, 12:34 PM
That must have been where the Wookey Hollow nightclub was. :)

PhilipG
04-27-2007, 12:36 PM
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PhilipG
04-27-2007, 12:39 PM
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Kev
04-27-2007, 01:21 PM
CAMPAIGNERS battling to save Liverpool’s first cinema are appealing to English Heritage to award the building listed status. more (http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/liverpoolecho/news/echonews/tm_headline=save-city%2D%2D8217%2Ds-first-cinema%26method=full%26objectid=18971378%26siteid= 50061-name_page.html) The former Bedford Hall cinema in Walton was opened on Boxing Day 1910.

PhilipG
04-27-2007, 01:42 PM
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Ged
04-27-2007, 01:46 PM
Is that building one in Overton st Phil, where Taskers is now? Source: Reflections site.

PhilipG
04-27-2007, 02:20 PM
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PhilipG
04-27-2007, 06:53 PM
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ChrisGeorge
04-27-2007, 07:01 PM
I've just received this from one of the people trying to get the Bedford Listed.
Bad news, I'm afraid.


Dear Philip,

Not good news for the Bedford as I'm afraid EH have turned it down -
again. I putting all the reasons from them as to why they wont
list it in the post today for you to read. I am very sorry that
this so disappointing.

Best wishes,

Richard

Sorry to hear that, Philip. As I am involved in a preservation battle here in the U.S. to save a War of 1812 battlefield, with partial success so far, I know how hard such battles are and how difficult it is to have to accept setbacks.

Chris

PhilipG
04-27-2007, 07:07 PM
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Ged
04-27-2007, 10:08 PM
Is it because some of its originals features are no more and it's been modified as you've mentioned before?

Such ridiculous reasons really if that's the case.

PhilipG
04-27-2007, 11:45 PM
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george roberts
04-30-2007, 05:36 PM
Bigging up pictures usually degrades them unless you have certain software. Probably best if you send them au natural:)
Has anyone got any pictures of the, now sadly demolished, Granby?
If so can they be sent to my email address as attachements? thanks George Roberts.

PhilipG
04-30-2007, 05:50 PM
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PhilipG
05-02-2007, 01:33 AM
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Max
05-02-2007, 01:49 AM
2248


Source - http://liverpool.ndo.co.uk/wavsoc/books/

???

skgogosfan
05-03-2007, 05:10 AM
I dunno if this is of any interest,but going past the former Derby cinema on Scotland Rd. on the bus,(the undertakers' one),I noticed some of the cladding on the south corner had vanished to reveal the original building. It's not much-but someone with a zoom lens might want a shot. ;)

Dave.

SteveFaragher
05-03-2007, 01:29 PM
I was brought up in Halewood in the 60's and 70's and so used to go the Woolton every Saturday to the kids matinee. They used to be quite wild, to the extent they had to get a policeman to walk about during the films

Went to the Majestic a couple of times it used to show films a couple of weeks after they had been on in town. Sneaked there from Halewood to see the two Dr.Who films, Very nice cinema but past its best in the 60's the seats used to give off tons of dust if you hit them.

Me mother took me to see "Help" at the Odeon in London Road, it was like going to a plush red velvet and shiny brass picture palace, a massive single screen,

Lastly the Abbey Cinerama was also magnificent, went to see the Great Race there and continued right up until it closed. It used to have cheap one off matinee on a wednesday saw Chinatown and Midnight Express. That cinema was almsot unique and we let it go.....cant believe it.

During the the end of the 70's I used to win a lot of free tickets off radio merseyside competitions (ramsey Campbell) most of them were for the 051, which sort of became an instant dump...the best worst free ticket I won was to see a 3D sex film called "what the swedish butler saw" with Diana Dors, It was a preview screening at 10.30 am, so I turned up....no one on the box office, except a big oile of 3 D specs, so I take one and wander into a darkened cinema, aware that there were a few other people in there but it was too dark to tell who they were.

The film was pretty tame too.......

PhilipG
05-03-2007, 01:43 PM
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Ged
05-04-2007, 03:54 PM
Billy Butler, himself a bit of a film buff who has a slot where you can request rare ones, is fielding calls about Liverpool cinemas today and has mentioned the Bedford, Liverpool's 1st.

He started his hour off appropriately with 'Saturday night at the movies' and they are running a made in Merseyside quiz this week playing excerpts from film dialogue - most quite difficult. I got the Violent playground one quite easily though - seen bits of it a lot lately.

PhilipG
05-04-2007, 08:43 PM
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Gerard
05-04-2007, 08:50 PM
I wish they would stop staying the Bedford was Liverpool's first purpose-built cinema.
The truth is, it was a draw between the Bedford and the Kensington Picturedrome.
They were both licensed at the same time, and the Kensington was opened on 26 December 1910, but the actual opening day of the Bedford is not known, despite Harold Ackroyd's claim that it was Boxing Day, 1908.


Harold Ackroyd !!!..Rrrrrr Phils the Daddy..:handclap:

PhilipG
05-04-2007, 08:56 PM
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Ged
05-08-2007, 05:45 PM
Phil. Another view of The Derby, taken when Wilbraham House tenements were still up. You can also see St. Anthony's Church and the Vernon's building. I am reliably informed by someone connected with project Jennifer that the Derby is coming down and that's why John Coyne has now moved to the Panda Alarm building along Stanley road, not far from his bro Peter who's in the old Grosvenor. Apparently Central Tin cannisters (situated behind the Derby, further down Wilbraham st are holding out for a better deal)

Feel free to use the pic as you like.

Ged
05-08-2007, 05:46 PM
Oh, and here's the pic - silly me.

PhilipG
05-08-2007, 06:07 PM
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Ged
05-09-2007, 10:50 AM
Yep, will let you know as soon as I do.

marky
05-22-2007, 12:49 AM
Lyceum, Garston. The previous colour was a garish yellow/blue combination.

Ged
05-22-2007, 12:51 PM
The romance comedy The Mating Game, released the previous October is showing starring Debbie Reynolds and Tony Randall. The David Lewis building is in the background.

steveb
05-22-2007, 01:35 PM
Great pic, what road was that on

Ged
05-22-2007, 01:54 PM
St. James street. It's not my pic though, sorry, should have said. It's off the Reflections of Liverpool site.

drone_pilot
05-22-2007, 05:31 PM
Paramount Cinema

http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/paramountcopy.jpg

Fraser st Just off London Road

Ged
05-22-2007, 05:37 PM
Hiya DP - great pic but that's Fraser st actually. The Shakespeare theatre stood next door to it which is now occupied by the Ann Fowler home which once stood on Netherfield Road. PhilipG said that this was never actually a cinema though but just their offices.

drone_pilot
05-22-2007, 05:39 PM
Thanks Ged i have corrected it.


PhilipG said that this was never actually a cinema though but just their offices.

Looks like it, still a good building though.

Gerard
05-22-2007, 05:40 PM
Paramount Cinema

http://www.militaryimages.net/imagehost/images/dronepilot/paramountcopy.jpg

Fraser st Just off London Road

You are standing d-p on the spot of the Gaumont Cinema on Camden St.

Ged
05-22-2007, 05:43 PM
I think Gerard here went for a meal in there just a couple of weeks ago -GERARD, Where are yer - get in for ya tea lad.

Gerard
05-22-2007, 05:48 PM
I think Gerard here went for a meal in there just a couple of weeks ago -GERARD, Where are yer - get in for ya tea lad.

Noooooooooo never been in there Ged..Been looking for that piccie of Bobo standing there on that spot bladdered when we came out the Warden about 2weeks ago..
He must have sneaked on my computer and deleted it..thats it...he's dead.

Ged
05-22-2007, 05:50 PM
Ha ha, must've misread it, someone said they'd been in that Kurdish restaurant and I thought it was you. D'ya mean Bobo and his imaginary snooker cue lol.

Gerard
05-22-2007, 05:52 PM
Been inn there :unibrow: loaaaaaaaaaads of times when it was the De Millle..
Had a few good slurps in there then..


Used to wash the cars in that area about 38 and a half years ago

Half a crown or something we got for it.

Gerard
05-22-2007, 05:54 PM
Ha ha, must've misread it, someone said they'd been in that Kurdish restaurant and I thought it was you. D'ya mean Bobo and his imaginary snooker cue lol.


Yeah...That one yeahhhhhhhhhh..
Ehhhhhh..when did you see that..:unibrow:
Did he pay yo to delete that eh..eh..did he then eh...

Ged
05-22-2007, 05:55 PM
No way you were washing cars aged 20 Gerard - no way!

Gerard
05-22-2007, 05:57 PM
No way you were washing cars aged 20 Gerard - no way!

:shock:..Im lost for words now...grass...

PhilipG
05-22-2007, 10:14 PM
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steveb
05-23-2007, 12:33 AM
Yes I was down lime street the other day and noticed the Forum being
covered in plastic, what are they doing with it ?

AK1
05-23-2007, 12:24 PM
Yes I was down lime street the other day and noticed the Forum being
covered in plastic, what are they doing with it ?

The stonework is being cleaned.

steveb
05-23-2007, 01:46 PM
The stonework is being cleaned.

Oh right, is that all. I suppose it is in aid of City of culture

Ged
06-07-2007, 04:14 PM
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/localhistory/journey/lime_street/cinemas/filmprog.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/liverpool/localhistory/journey/lime_street/cinemas/leaflets.shtml&h=316&w=250&sz=16&hl=en&start=2&tbnid=jneCVj8CMx0DPM:&tbnh=117&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dliverpool%2Bcinemas%26gbv%3D2%26svnum %3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

Ged
06-07-2007, 04:19 PM
http://www.liverpoolvision.co.uk/newsdocs/ABC-14BT8547%20copy(5).jpg

Ged
06-07-2007, 04:22 PM
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/gallery/450/aa9/aa98_06984.jpg&imgrefurl=http://viewfinder.english-heritage.org.uk/search/detail.asp%3FcalledFrom%3Doai%26imageUID%3D75458&h=284&w=450&sz=16&hl=en&start=20&tbnid=mC-RZjqylQOl-M:&tbnh=80&tbnw=127&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dliverpool%2Bcinemas%26start%3D18%26gb v%3D2%26ndsp%3D18%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

phredd
06-07-2007, 05:06 PM
Took a trip down West Derby Road (Tuebrook) last week looking for a cinema that I frequented as a kid -- no sign of it, the building has long gone and I cannot remember its name.

Its location was down West Derby road (tuebrook) just passed the police station and under the railway bridge on the right.
I think it was between "Oak Leigh and Ivy Leigh".
Can anyone name it for me ?

Thanks for any help that comes along.

Phredd

shytalk
06-07-2007, 05:15 PM
phredd, It was the Empress, knocked down years ago when the road was widened.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:

phredd
06-07-2007, 05:19 PM
phredd, It was the Empress, knocked down years ago when the road was widened.:PDT_Aliboronz_24:


Thanks Shy. will pass on to me other half

Ged
06-17-2007, 03:57 PM
The Paramount in 1941 and Kensington 1953.

steveb
06-17-2007, 04:34 PM
Thanks for pic,s. The Kensington was that the one next to the ice rink
and became a bingo hall

Ged
06-17-2007, 04:38 PM
That's ok, you're welcome Steve. I think it was next to the ice rink but Phil will know for sure when he sees it.

Steven
06-17-2007, 05:26 PM
Does anybody remember the Gaumont in the Dingle. I had my first real date there when I was 15. Her name was Diane and I agreed to meet her inside (:neutral:) Oh! the shame of it ! But I had no money,,,,,,,,,,,,


The story can continue but only by PM or e-mail, lol

PhilipG
06-17-2007, 07:52 PM
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Ged
06-18-2007, 01:22 AM
Great info Phil (as ever) Max Baer of course being the father of Jethro in The Beverley Hillbillies. I took the year off the info on the back of the photie, apologies if it's wrong.

I know you said previously that there's few photies of the Paramount without its cladding.

snappel
06-18-2007, 09:55 AM
Yes I was down lime street the other day and noticed the Forum being
covered in plastic, what are they doing with it ?
What about the insides - what's going on there? Weren't there plans a while back to turn into a bar complex or something? I'm glad they're cleaning the outside up though, it deserves it. I hate hearing people refer to it as an 'eyesore', because it isn't...

joge
06-22-2007, 09:07 PM
Hi Gang,

Just plugged into this thread and it brung up some memories about what I think was the Continental in the Wirral.

I used to frequent this place in the fifties. Can't remember the name but it may well have been the Continental as mentioned by Felicity back on page 11.

It had been a theatre and all the theatre trappings were still in place. Your ticket led you to a numbered seat. When you bought your ticket you could order coffee and biscuits which were brought to your seat in the interval.
They showed films which were not on general release in the normal cinemas, what we'd now call "Art House" movies. I know it was still there in 59/60? because it was there I saw "Jazz on a summer's day", the documentary about the 1958 Newport Jazz Festival.

A night out there involved a trip on the ferry, a short walk, a good movie in elegant surroundings and a moonlight trip back on the ferry. Especially memorable if one was on a romantic date!

Was it the Continental — any other memories — any pics?

PhilipG
06-22-2007, 09:37 PM
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joge
06-22-2007, 09:58 PM
Thanks Phil,

Liscard Road seems about right, in my memory box. Look forward to seeing the pic — hopefully it will dredge up the old nostalgia bug.

Cheers

PhilipG
06-22-2007, 10:17 PM
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joge
06-23-2007, 12:48 PM
Hi Philip,

Thanks a lot for the info and the pic — shame about the overprinting, but I fully understand, and sympathise with, your wish to protect your photographs.

I"m amazed it didn't start out as a theatre — I'd just assumed it was a converted theatre because everything about the decoration and the whole ambience of the place had the feeling of theatrical beginnings rather than a cinema.

Picking up on other peoples comments — get your book written — yes, it may be a minority interest, but you're adding something to the pool of common knowledge and intellectual diversity — that's got to be a good thing.

Thanks again.

Joge

Ged
06-23-2007, 01:30 PM
Especially as it's been mentioned that the only other current offering has mistakes in it.

drone_pilot
06-23-2007, 03:44 PM
PhilipG, do you by any chance, have a picture of the Pheonix Cinema, in Wallasey Village, it was a flea pit, but on a saturday morning, it was my world.

PhilipG
06-23-2007, 05:04 PM
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PhilipG
06-23-2007, 05:06 PM
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drone_pilot
06-23-2007, 05:38 PM
Ah days of my misspent youth,
Myself, my younger sister, and several friends off to the Saturday morning matinee, several cartoons, and a main feature, King of the rocket men was one of my favourites,
http://www.moria.co.nz/sf/kingofrocketmen.htm and all for a tanner 6d in old money 2.5 Pence now.

I was living on the Leasow estate at the time and would walk to the cinema getting there nice and early so i could sit right at the front, and in the middle, 2 hours of pure bliss, and all for the priceley sum of a Bob 1s 5 pence in new money, which was my entrence fee an icecream tub and a bag of sweets and a drink. god we were rich then.

as someone on here says in their sig, In the days when we had nothing, we had fun.

drone_pilot
06-23-2007, 05:45 PM
Phill just noticed that the pheonix (bird image) is missing it's red neon tubing between its base and the top part, it used to flash on and off in a ripple effect so it looked like flames, I used to stand and watch it for hours.

PhilipG
06-23-2007, 06:48 PM
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Ged
06-24-2007, 11:27 PM
Phil. You know amongst other things, I look out for pics of old cinemas for you on my travels, have you got this one of Queens Drive baths as a cinema. It's out of that new book, Played in Liverpool.

Ged
06-24-2007, 11:35 PM
...Oh,and the pic.

babayaga321
06-25-2007, 01:10 AM
Hi All...

New to this forum....great content within it, and much to take in over the next few weeks.

My Dad was Charlie Seaman... worked as an apprentice projectionist / sweeper upper when he was 16 at The Magnet, Wavertree Road. At the Gaumont, Princes Park he was projectionist... my Mum worked as an usherette, and my Aunt was the Manager's Assistant. Dad went on to work as Cheif Projectionist at the Hippodrome on the Hill; completing stand-in stints for Rank at the Odeon Liverpool, and also the Odeon Chester. His time with Rank finished when they closed the Odeon, Stanley Road, Bootle. He then went on to work for Star when they opened the new 051 complex in Mount Pleasant.

Sadly Dad is not with us anymore. Memories for me which put a smile on my face.....

1) Gaumont - being allowed to bring loads of mates to the matinees with me when I was 7 for free, and getting free drinks and ice-creams. I only found out afterward that my Mum and Dad had to pay the bill afterward....!

2) Hippodrome - Dad took me out onto the roof of the cinema as we heard a radio news bulletin that what remained of New Brighton tower complex was on fire. I can still recall seeing the smoke rising up over the river....

3) Odeon, Bootle - I actually ran a matinee show when I was 15 as my Dad was too ill to do it himself. He sat in a chair at the back of the projection box and told me what to do and to look out for '..Link...Motor....Change!' Pure cinematic rock n'roll!!!

4) 051 - Being introduced to huge reels attached to projectors which had a complete day's show on them, and didn't require changing. Also being introduced to 'mucky films' rather than the more family-oriented ones that I'd been used to. Nice to note that C4 has shown much worse in the intervening years...! :-)

I've digitised a few of Dad's cinematic photographs that I can let you have a look at if anyone is interested?

Cheers - Graham, Childwall. :)

PhilipG
06-25-2007, 12:58 PM
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Beatle
06-27-2007, 02:42 PM
Took a trip down West Derby Road (Tuebrook) last week looking for a cinema that I frequented as a kid -- no sign of it, the building has long gone and I cannot remember its name.

Its location was down West Derby road (tuebrook) just passed the police station and under the railway bridge on the right.
I think it was between "Oak Leigh and Ivy Leigh".
Can anyone name it for me ?

Thanks for any help that comes along.

Phredd


My late Dad lived in Ivy Leigh in the 1920s and referred to the Empress as the 'Hen Pen'. He often said about buying an 'apeth of fades' which was bruised fruit and cheaper than sweets. He also said, the realy bad fruit they used to throw around in the dark for a laugh (What a hooligan!)

Beatle

chippie
06-27-2007, 08:16 PM
Hello Beatle, I ate fades all the time from my local greengrocers. It was the only way I would be able to eat fruit in my early years. You,d just cut the bad bit out and throw it away.:)

steveb
07-22-2007, 09:10 PM
Was going to do the rounds of all the old cinema buildings that are left
needless to say it never stopped raining, however, this is the Regal
broadway as it is now....

PhilipG
07-22-2007, 09:19 PM
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steveb
07-22-2007, 09:58 PM
That's a good wide shot.
I'll look forward to seeing the other photos.
Do you know where all the former cinemas are?
I keep meaning to make a list.

I know were a good few are but, if you manage alist please email to me
If you want to use any of my pic,s feel free

PhilipG
07-22-2007, 11:06 PM
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Kev
07-22-2007, 11:08 PM
Spot-on Phil :handclap:

steveb
07-23-2007, 12:22 AM
Thanks Phil
should keep me busy for a while...:PDT11

PhilipG
07-23-2007, 12:29 AM
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steveb
07-23-2007, 01:14 AM
Bear in mind that with that being the complete list, it also includes all the buildings that have been altered so much that you're going to curse me for listing them.
Do you want me to add stars to the ones that have been altered too much, or do you want to find out for yourself?

Might be worth adding stars asreally it would pointless if they are
altered beyond recognition. It is a shame as most of the buldings
were great.. Were I live the local ones are the, Regal, Clubmoor, royal
Ritz and of course Cabbage Hall. Thanks Phil

PhilipG
07-23-2007, 01:45 AM
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Ross08
07-23-2007, 07:46 PM
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/ConwayStreet-March2007.jpg
Classic / Cannon - Conway St. Birkenhead. Closed in the early '90s and now a nightclub. Opposite the former Ritz cinema (now demolished). Photo: Mar 2007.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/SAVOYasRileys-ArgyleStreetBirkenhea.jpg
Savoy - Argyle St. Birkenhead. This cinema became the town's first modern snooker centre and is currently operated by Rileys. This cinema is just around the corner from the Classic / Cannon shown above. Photo: Mar 2007.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/RocketRonnies-KingSt.WallaseyJuly2007.jpg
Royal - King St. Wallasey. Opened 1912 although built earlier than this. Closed 1967 and later went onto bingo. The building is now a snooker centre - 'Rocket Ronnie's' and is owned by - or has some connection with - Ronnie O'Sullivan.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/MORETON-PICTUREHOUSEBINGO-PASTURERD.jpg
Moreton Picture House - Pasture Rd. Moreton. Built c1920. Closed March '64 and has since run on bingo. Firstly Top Flight Bingo, later Windsor and Top Ten Bingo. Photo: July 2007.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/LISCARDELECTRICPALACE2.jpg
Liscard Electric Palace, Seaview Rd. Wallasey. Later became a Lennons supermarket and has for many years been a Shoemarket shoe shop. Photos: July 2007.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/LISCARDELECTRICPALACE3.jpg

Photos of the Capitol to follow. I'm just trying to get all my photos in order.

PhilipG
07-23-2007, 07:56 PM
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shytalk
07-23-2007, 08:28 PM
Great pics. Ross and Phillip:handclap:

Ross, if you pass by the Royal Duke pub on the corner of Duke St. and Corporation Rd. could you get a picture of it please.

Ross08
07-23-2007, 08:44 PM
I'm pretty sure that pub's gone. I can't place it anyway.

On one side of Duke St you've got Happy Al's bus depot, and on the other is the Odyssey Centre. There is a small area of derelict land there with, I think, an advertising hoarding?

Could that be where the pub was?

BTW - If anyone ever wants me to try and get any photos, feel free to ask. I am pretty sure this pub's been knocked down though.

shytalk
07-23-2007, 10:09 PM
Probably has Ross, it was quite a big pun catering to sailors, ladies of the night and taxi drivers. it was right opposite what was the entrance to the docks, a policeman was always on point duty there years ago.

Gnomie
07-25-2007, 02:11 PM
The New Premier Picturedrome

This was the first purpose built cinema in the Old Swan area. The first proprietors, New Premier Picture Houses Ltd, were granted a cinematograph license on 31st December 1912 and opened in January 1913. The name of the cinema was changed to The New Premier Picture House in 1919 and soon after to Clubmoor Cinema. In 1925 it merged with another cinema and became amongst the first suburban cinemas to install sound equipment. The cinema survived while all of the other independent cinema's were closing. Eventually it was forced to close in the late 1930's but later reopened as a record and music superstore. More recently, the front elevation was demolished for it's current owner of the appropriately named "Premier" public house.

now a sorry sight from its former glory. i believe it is due to be demolished.

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/cinemas/premier001.jpg

http://h1.ripway.com/andalucia/cinemas/premier002.jpg

PhilipG
07-25-2007, 02:14 PM
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PhilipG
07-25-2007, 02:23 PM
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Gnomie
07-25-2007, 02:27 PM
Cheers for the info Phil.

I got that info off the port cities sight. i thought it would have been opened longer than the 1930`s

I have a picture of it in a book. such a nice frontage it had.

PhilipG
07-25-2007, 02:44 PM
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Ged
07-25-2007, 03:45 PM
I remember Blundells 'catalogue shop' (I think it was) being there around 1976-78 when my Old Swan mate and I used to window shop at the motorbikes in the shop almost facing, possibly the bottom of Ronald St. I didn't know a picture house lay behind it.

Gnomie
08-01-2007, 02:53 PM
The Developers signs have gone up on The Carlton cinema at the end of Green Lane. i think its time is nigh.

steveb
08-01-2007, 10:02 PM
For those who wish to update their cinema records as to what
the buildings are now here are 2 taken 1st Aug 2007.
Photo,s free for personal use.

Taskers formerly the Ritz
Happy Dayz formerly the Clubmoor

PhilipG
08-02-2007, 02:33 AM
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steveb
08-02-2007, 10:46 AM
Nothing remains of the original front of the Clubmoor.
Have you been round the back?
You wouldn't believe it was the same building.
It looks derelict, with broken windows.

I had a look round the back a while ago, didn't have my camera
with me though.

PhilipG
08-02-2007, 10:58 AM
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steveb
08-03-2007, 10:16 PM
ABC Tuebrook (Carlton) Green Lane as it is now

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/steveb_04/abc1.jpg


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/steveb_04/abc.jpg

marky
08-08-2007, 08:59 AM
ABC, Lime Street. Looking clean, for a change.

steveb
08-08-2007, 12:24 PM
ABC, Lime Street. Looking clean, for a change.

Ermmmm were is the rest of the building ? :snf (41):
Can you not put your pic,s on PB that way they come up
without having to click the thumbnail

Ross08
08-10-2007, 01:25 AM
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/GOODBYE.jpg

These words from the film TITANIC are now displayed on the canopy outside Chester's ODEON, the cinema having closed in early June.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/GOODBYECHESTER-1.jpg

I'd been told about the cinema's impending closure almost a year ago when it was purchased by Doncaster-based Brook Leisure. At the time I was told that Brook had said they would be renting the cinema back to ODEON for 'a couple of years'.

It would seem that my suspicions have turned out to be right, having expected that this nightclub-operating company would shut the cinema at the earliest opportunity.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/GOODBYECHESTERODEON1.jpg


September 2007

Ross08
08-10-2007, 02:39 AM
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/NORRISGREEN0808071.jpg

REGAL - BROADWAY - 08.08.07 - Bingo has now ended and club is empty.

steveb
08-10-2007, 12:23 PM
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/NORRISGREEN0808071.jpg

REGAL - BROADWAY - 08.08.07 - Bingo has now ended and club is empty.

Yes it has, I posted a few weeks ago.... Like my pic,s of the old
ABC Tuebrook who,s fate has finaly been decided....

PhilipG
08-10-2007, 01:31 PM
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steveb
08-10-2007, 01:35 PM
What's going to happen with the ABC (Carlton) at Tuebrook?
Is anything going to remain?

Not according to the guys onsite. It maybe a while till they do the cinema
as the old bowling alley is 1st due to it being totaly trashed.
They have said that when they get to the cinema, they will ring me as
long as I have my own hard hat :-)

PhilipG
08-10-2007, 01:39 PM
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steveb
08-11-2007, 07:33 PM
A few more,"as they are now", pic,s

Gaumont Oakfield Rd


Victoria Cherry Lane

DaisyChains
08-11-2007, 07:49 PM
Great pics everyone:handclap:

Whats happening with Dovecot Academy? Such a great building.
I saw someone's washing hanging on the upper level the other day!!

Took this this morning (sorry for only half a pic, but i only had my camera phone!) there is a window open...i assume a caretaker?

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a2/Carrie132/12-08-07_1233.jpg

steveb
08-12-2007, 10:12 PM
More as they are now pic,s


The Mere Lane

The Royal Breck Road

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/steveb_04/mlane1.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/steveb_04/mlane21.jpg

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/steveb_04/royal.jpg

PhilipG
08-14-2007, 06:27 PM
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drone_pilot
08-14-2007, 07:48 PM
I was looking around Central Hall on Monday and found a door open on the second floor and this is what i found, the only place i couldn't get into was the projectionists booth.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1737.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1728.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1748.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1743.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1736.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1727.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1746.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1739.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1732.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1726.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1751.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1745.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1738.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1731.jpg
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e99/drone_pilot/Central%20Hall/DSC_1724.jpg

steveb
08-17-2007, 07:48 PM
Not very awe inspiring :handclap: but this is what the Cabbage Hall
picture house looks like today, you can see the old part of the building
and the new front that LFC supporters club put on in 1961. Sadly despite
many months of searching, I can't find any pic,s pre conversion...
I lived in Winchester Rd just around the corner and my grandmother worked
in the box office of the"Cabby". I remember on a Saturday going down the
side by the garage with my jam jars for the admission fee, AH those were
the days when the area was thriving...

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/steveb_04/chall.jpg

ChrisGeorge
08-17-2007, 08:29 PM
Excellent photographs in this thread, Philip, drone_pilot, Ross, DaisyChains and steveb! Well done, everyone! :handclap:

Chris

steveb
08-18-2007, 07:44 PM
The Graphic/Cosy in Boaler St as it is today

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o102/steveb_04/cosy.jpg

skgogosfan
08-19-2007, 06:04 AM
Lovely pix of Central Hall,Philip and DP. The colours are beautiful!

Dave.

Store 3
09-23-2007, 05:54 PM
i was one of the ABC minors in about 1958..bring back Flash gordon and all those cowie,s where,s Roy and Hoppy......eeeeeehhhhaaaa. great film,s
no swearing....head em up and move em out...:009:

Mark R
10-01-2007, 12:19 PM
The Hippodrome (West Derby Road). Thanks to Harold Ackroyd

ayjaykay
10-01-2007, 12:57 PM
Thanks to Harold Ackroyd

Be careful mentioning that name in these parts :)

lindylou
10-01-2007, 01:09 PM
Be careful mentioning that name in these parts :)

Why ?? :unibrow: :ninja:

I don't get that. :)

PhilipG
10-01-2007, 01:40 PM
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chippie
10-01-2007, 01:44 PM
was it the Hippo drope that had the only title of Royal outside London, or am I mistooken?

PhilipG
10-01-2007, 01:52 PM
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chippie
10-01-2007, 02:14 PM
thanks Philip, I must have been dreaming about that trivial bit of non knowledge. One of my elders must have given me the wrong information.

lindylou
10-01-2007, 06:16 PM
Mr Ackroyd has written the history of Liverpool's cinemas.
With quite a few mistakes!
We were both in the Library at the same time (researching cinemas), and the staff told each of us about the other, and it looks like Harold rushed his book out.
Once he gets to the cinemas built in the 1930s he's fine.
Most of the pictures in his book are from the Record Office.

oh I see. :)

I was just wondering :)

marky
10-03-2007, 08:13 PM
Kwik Save, Smithdown Road/Magdala Street
I don't know too much about this cinema site.
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Kwik_Save_Smithdown_Magdala.jpg

PhilipG
10-03-2007, 08:41 PM
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marky
10-04-2007, 08:13 AM
I thought there must be a good reason why I haven't seen any 'then' pics of the cinema at that junction (Smithdown Road/Magdala street).

Ross08
10-04-2007, 10:22 PM
Philip... Do you have any information about the Stanley 'Grand' Casino on Lord Street, Southport?

Any information would be appreciated, particularly if you know when it was built and for what purpose.

I'm sure you will have some info on it.

PhilipG
10-05-2007, 01:10 AM
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Ross08
10-05-2007, 01:27 AM
Nice one Phil. As ever, a fountain of knowledge.

I'd wondered what the new building was on the front. I was in Southport about 3 weeks ago and seen the steelwork.

So that's two questions answered in one go.

Kev
10-08-2007, 09:18 AM
AN AMBITIOUS £14m plan to demolish and rebuild one of Merseyside’s last remaining independent cinemas has been scrapped. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/10/08/crosby-plaza-s-14m-rebuild-is-scrapped-64375-19912380/)

PhilipG
10-08-2007, 12:27 PM
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Ged
10-10-2007, 09:27 PM
March 21st 1976

Ged
10-10-2007, 09:35 PM
Another view of the Cameo. Sorry about the quality of these, they're from a 1987 Echo suppliment - hard believe they're 20 years old themselves, I remember keeping them like yesterday..

chippie
10-11-2007, 01:10 AM
found this photo somewhere on the net of the old Atlas cinema used to be in Rice Lane. I remember I used to stand outside it to get the bus home after babysitting my three cute cousins who lived near there.

lindylou
10-11-2007, 12:03 PM
I don't remember that cinema at all. I didn't know there was one in Rice lane. Was it opposite to Walton hozzy ?

PhilipG
10-11-2007, 02:14 PM
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lindylou
10-12-2007, 12:31 PM
I know Rice lane well enough and yet I can't recall that cinema at all.

PhilipG
10-12-2007, 12:43 PM
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marky
10-24-2007, 03:57 AM
Park Palace, Mill Street. The following web-site contains a small pic showing the inside (from the time when it was used as a work-space for the Liverpool Lantern Co.)
http://www.zho.org.uk/jon2.swf
Every now and again I see the door shutter raised, so it must still get used for something.

DaisyChains
11-09-2007, 08:21 PM
Park Palace, Mill Street. The following web-site contains a small pic showing the inside (from the time when it was used as a work-space for the Liverpool Lantern Co.)
http://www.zho.org.uk/jon2.swf
Every now and again I see the door shutter raised, so it must still get used for something.

Hey all
I was buying some lunch today, and saw a leaflet....

'Do you Remember the Park Palace , Mill Street?'

'Zho Theatre are planning to make a documentary drama film about this beautiful old building.'
'This is your chance to get involved.'
'Do you ehave any memories to share? Do you have any friends or relatives with stories to tell? Do you remember the films that played there? Did someone you know ever work there? Would you like to be involved in the production of this film? Can you act? Would you like to learn to act, compose, research the history?
How would you like to see this building restored? How could this once again serve the community?

If you would like to get involved we would like you to contact us, ZHO THEATRE.

Tel: 01517071850
Email: Zho@madasafish.com
ZHO Visual Theatre, The Annexe, 13 Hope St, L1 9BH.'


I was really excited when I saw this!
I am gonna get in touch and see what's a happening.

PhilipG
11-12-2007, 08:48 PM
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AngelCake
11-12-2007, 08:56 PM
Park Palace, Mill Street. The following web-site contains a small pic showing the inside (from the time when it was used as a work-space for the Liverpool Lantern Co.)
http://www.zho.org.uk/jon2.swf
Every now and again I see the door shutter raised, so it must still get used for something.

It would be good to see it being used as a cinema.I'm not sure if it would make enough money but it wouldn't hurt giving it a try

Ross08
11-12-2007, 10:38 PM
Blackpool's ODEON opened at Dickson Road on 6th May 1939 and was the biggest of the original ODEON cinemas. The building continued to operate as a cinema for just short of 60 years, closing on 5th December 1998. ODEON have since opened a multiplex nearby - as PhilipG's photograph shows.

The Dickson Road building retains much of its 1930s Art Deco character as Funny Girls burlesque showbar, owned by Basil Newby's In the Pink Leisure.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/FunnyGirls-ROSS.jpg

It's amazing how similar PhilipG's photograph is to my own. When I first looked at the posting, I thought for a second it was my own. It's a building that can only really be photographed from one angle as, like many cinemas, only the main facade is attractive - the other faces are just plain brick.

Nice to see some Blackpool cinemas - good work!

Ged
11-14-2007, 11:19 AM
Great pics you fellas and a great Blackpool flickr Phil.

PhilipG
11-17-2007, 01:39 PM
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Gnomie
11-17-2007, 01:52 PM
I thought it had been saved Philip?

Cant believe its still at risk :disgust:

marky
11-20-2007, 08:22 AM
A planning notice, on a sign-post, at the corner of Scotland Road/Wilbraham Street refers to 322 Scotland Road. I think this is the former Cinema/Funeral Directors.
http://www.liverpool.gov.uk/environment/planning/mvm_explorer.asp

PhilipG
11-20-2007, 09:27 AM
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PhilipG
11-20-2007, 01:57 PM
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PhilipG
11-20-2007, 11:29 PM
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EddTheRed
11-27-2007, 06:13 PM
GREAT thread.

Not only hugely enjoyable to read from a nostalgia point-of-view, but also helping enormously with a local history project I'm running with a group of 14 - 16 year-olds in Anfield (I'm actually based at Liverpool Lighthouse on Oakfield Road, which used to be the Gaumont Palace cinema).

Thanks again to Phil G for permission to use some of his excellent photos in our exhibition (December 19th - come along, it's free!).

Anyone object if use some of the others posted on here?

Thanks,

Ed

gregs dad
11-27-2007, 09:53 PM
Anybody remember the Palace cinema on Warbreck Moor which was the
next cinema after the Atlas on Rice Lane. It was turned into a supermarket
and then into a shoe superstore.

gregs dad

PhilipG
11-28-2007, 03:19 AM
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Ged
11-28-2007, 11:05 AM
Ron of the Scottie press tells me there are murmers regarding this building being demolished. Although not listed it has been part of the Scottie scene for 125 years.

In the past decade it has been a pub and a pine furniture showroom.

Kev
11-30-2007, 01:15 PM
CAMPAIGNERS celebrated last night after an historic Merseyside cinema won £50,000 to renovate its exterior. Read (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2007/11/30/crosby-plaza-wins-vital-regeneration-funding-64375-20182572/)

PhilipG
11-30-2007, 01:55 PM
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lindylou
11-30-2007, 02:28 PM
I submitted a phone vote for this.
Someone was appealing on the radio for people to vote, so I did . :)

PhilipG
12-03-2007, 08:13 PM
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marky
12-05-2007, 10:57 PM
A picture of the former Bedford cinema is in the Liverpool Echo tonight.
@PhilipG, you get a quote in the text.

skgogosfan
12-10-2007, 01:32 AM
Bedford Hall cinema appeal goes to a sequel

Dec 5 2007 by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

LIVERPOOL’S oldest cinema has been given a stay of execution from the bulldozers...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2007/12/05/bedford-hall-cinema-appeal-goes-to-a-sequel-100252-20204398/

Dave.

DaisyChains
12-24-2007, 12:51 PM
Bedford Hall cinema appeal goes to a sequel

Dec 5 2007 by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

LIVERPOOL’S oldest cinema has been given a stay of execution from the bulldozers...

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2007/12/05/bedford-hall-cinema-appeal-goes-to-a-sequel-100252-20204398/

Dave.

Philip G is a WALTON HISTORIAN??:shock:

PhilipG
12-31-2007, 01:57 PM
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PhilipG
01-31-2008, 04:45 PM
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Chris48
02-01-2008, 08:40 PM
Wow, great philip. Have a photo of the Palais Deluxe 1926 for that.

marky
02-02-2008, 09:47 AM
Scotland Road/Wilbraham Street: A FOR SALE sign has appeared on this former Cinema, recently. It states it comes with planning permission for apartments (there was a planning notice a couple of months ago).

Kev
02-06-2008, 09:35 PM
Cinema plans may be vetoed

Feb 6 2008 by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

PLANS to demolish Liverpool’s oldest cinema could be turned down.

Councillors yesterday said they were considering refusing the controversial scheme for Bedford Hall in Walton.

The building opened in 1909 as the city’s first purpose-built picture house.

Its current owner now wants to demolish it and build 26 houses and flats.

Planners had asked that the frontage of the building on Bedford Road be incorporated into the new development.

But the owner turned down their request.

The proposal may now be rejected on the grounds it would cause the loss of “a local amenity of great historic interest”.

Ged
02-07-2008, 11:34 AM
Marky, thanks for that, i'm keeping an eye open for Philip as he'd like a photo without the cladding.

Kev, as Philip has already pointed out though, the owners have gone and smashed the decorative mouldings for spite in case they enhanced it's position of becoming listed/saved.

Sirob
02-16-2008, 10:36 PM
Here is a picture of the Atlas, taken in 1971.
More pictures of long gone cinemas to follow.
Copy them with pleasure

Kev
02-16-2008, 10:39 PM
Fantastic - Welcome aboard :PDT_Piratz_26::hug:

PhilipG
02-17-2008, 01:51 AM
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DaisyChains
02-17-2008, 08:49 AM
Here is a picture of the Atlas, taken in 1971.
More pictures of long gone cinemas to follow.
Copy them with pleasure

Brilliant picture!
I'm sure Philip will be really pleased you're aboard the Yo ship!:hug:

Sirob
02-17-2008, 10:27 PM
Here are some pictures of the Majestic, Daulby Street, during it's demolition in 1970. Sorry that the exterior shot is over exposed.
Photos; exterior, projection room, balcony. Two more pics, but over the file limit!

Ged
02-17-2008, 11:17 PM
Great these Sirob, i'd never seen a colour photo before of what was there before the Royal hospital.

Sirob
02-18-2008, 10:01 PM
The Plaza, Allerton Road, was built in !928 and was yet another A. E. Shennan design. A typical large suburban house, as built it had a capacity of 1,432. Unusually for this period, it had a large car park. There was also a large fishpool containing a fountain and statuette(is this unique?).
Name changes were Gaumont (1950), Odeon (1962) and Classic (1967)
Closure came on 18 th April 1971, with the final films being "A Shot in the Dark" and "The Hills Ran Red"
My interest was to record the main features of the building, and became a patron for the last performance. Explaining to the manager what I wanted to do, he allowed me access all areas - I didn't see much of the films, but preserved a little bit of history from oblivion!

Now for the pics!
exterior front, projection room, auditorium, fishpond(blurred but included for its rarity value)
Note; The projectionist kindly demonstrated the stage lighting, during the interval, hence the atmospheric shot. Can you spot the heads in the balcony?

PhilipG
02-19-2008, 09:23 AM
It's so good to see these.
Hardly anybody was taking photos of cinemas in the 1970s, let alone going inside and taking interior shots. :PDT11 :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Sirob
02-19-2008, 11:08 PM
Here are two more pics of the Majestic, during demolition in June 1971;
Balcony looking towards screen and front stalls similar view. The top masking curtain has fallen diagonally across the screen. On stage is a demolition worker, but who is th woman in pink???????

Also; The Hippodrome, taken in August 1970 and the remains of the Rialto(Swainbanks s/h furniture store) after the riots!

Ged
02-20-2008, 10:40 AM
Great pics again Sirob, especially of the Hippodrome. Well done.

PhilipG
02-20-2008, 11:11 AM
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Sirob
02-21-2008, 09:19 PM
Here is the Liverpool Echo cinema index for May 11 1955

shytalk
02-21-2008, 09:33 PM
The poo would hit the fan if they played the film on the Tunnel Rd.Pictureddrome today.:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Sirob
02-21-2008, 11:03 PM
I have followed with great interest, the attempts to save the Bedford. As a child, I went there regularly, until it's closure.
I am surprised that no attempt to form a trust, attract funding, or otherwise take steps towards purchase of the building. If the developer cannot get planning, then selling is an option. A
s regards listing, has nobody learned from the Firestone building in London which had the art deco front ripped of it, the day before it was due to be listed. There is also spot listing for buildings in immediate danger.
So much of our heritage has already been destroyed, will being Capital of Culture mean scenes like these below in Bedford Road?????

(Commodore, Hammersmith, London, 1981)

Sirob
02-23-2008, 09:42 PM
More obscure pics now;
What was left of the Lyric Theatre, Everton Valley, in August 1971. Located behind the pub, the partially demolished walls were used for years by Reardons Demolition contractors as a yard. Opened in 1897 as a theatre, converted to a cinema in 1922 , re-converted to a theatre again in 1925 and closed for good in 1932.
Frontage of the Queens cinema, Walton Road, in March 1973. Opened in 1913 and closed in 1959. Never part of a circuit, could only show second district runs and with the Astoria, Victory and Princess nearby, became an early casualty. Demolished 1980, after retail use.

DaisyChains
02-23-2008, 10:16 PM
More obscure pics now;
What was left of the Lyric Theatre, Everton Valley, in August 1971. Located behind the pub, the partially demolished walls were used for years by Reardons Demolition contractors as a yard. Opened in 1897 as a theatre, converted to a cinema in 1922 , re-converted to a theatre again in 1925 and closed for good in 1932.
Frontage of the Queens cinema, Walton Road, in March 1973. Opened in 1913 and closed in 1959. Never part of a circuit, could only show second district runs and with the Astoria, Victory and Princess nearby, became an early casualty. Demolished 1980, after retail use.

Fantastic Pics!
More more!

PhilipG
02-23-2008, 10:39 PM
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quincyg
02-23-2008, 11:44 PM
some long gone cinemas

the Corona - College Rd, Crosby (demolished 1957)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/corona.jpg

Electric Picture Palace - Bridge Rd, Litherland (destroyed by fire 1913)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/electric.jpg

Gainsborough, Knowsley Rd, Bootle. demolished couple of years ago.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/gainsborough.jpg

Regal, Church Rd, Litherland
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/Regal.jpg

Stella Picture House - Seaforth Rd, seaforth (demolished 1960's)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/stella.jpg


gathered from various sites, no sources listed.

Ged
02-23-2008, 11:48 PM
Well done quincyg.

quincyg
02-24-2008, 02:03 AM
Well done quincyg.

I'm hoping to get out tomoz and get some photos of some of the local cinemas still standing, that haven't had photos put on this thread yet.
There's 1 in Litherland, 1 in Seaforth, 1 (maybe 2) in Crosby/Waterloo.

I must rummage through my hard photos as I took one in the Museum of Liverpool life of the Abbey Cinema. it was part of a display they had up. I took it as the Abbey was my local as a nipper.

quincyg
02-24-2008, 02:56 AM
just found this fab piece on the Abbey http://www.wooltoncinema.co.uk/html/cinematributes.html

brought back some memories, including summat I'd forgotton...the first supermarket to go in the old building was LENNONS. now there's a blast from the past. we used to walk the roughly 2 miles up there to do our shopping then get the 79 home.

can't believe it's 25 years since it closed , I loved that cinema *sniff*

robbo176
02-24-2008, 02:15 PM
Frontage of the Queens cinema, Walton Road, in March 1973. Opened in 1913 and closed in 1959. Never part of a circuit, could only show second district runs and with the Astoria, Victory and Princess nearby, became an early casualty. Demolished 1980, after retail use.

thanks for the picture of Walton Road,I live just by there......Its a pity the Queens was replaced by a Maccys & Tescos change into a Farmfoods:PDT_Xtremez_12:

quincyg
02-24-2008, 06:13 PM
the Paladium, Seaforth (which handily has pics of the original cinema in the window)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/Picture1193.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/Picture1194.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/Picture1197.jpg

the Gaumont/Odeon, Stanley Rd/Linacre rd, Litherland
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/Picture1202.jpg

the Regent Picture House, Liverpool Rd , Crosby
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/Picture1226.jpg

PhilipG
02-24-2008, 11:57 PM
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quincyg
02-25-2008, 01:04 AM
that's a much better picture of the Coliseum than the very old sepia one I saw, which is probably why I got it mixed up with the Gaumont.

I was assuming the front of what turns out is the Gaumont was rebuilt.

great photo that.

quincyg
02-25-2008, 07:45 PM
probably already on here but here's The Commodore and The Grosvenor taken today

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/Picture1239-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/Picture1262-1.jpg

DaisyChains
02-25-2008, 08:15 PM
They are such classic, chic buildings. Never will we see the like of again.

quincyg
02-25-2008, 08:32 PM
just had one of my old large street plans spread out on the floor and it's showing a cinema in Marsh Lane. The map is early to mid 60's as it's pre flyover at Dale St and pre Kingsway tunnel.

My hubby who moved to Liverpool from London in 1963 was living in oregon st and he remembers it being called Auntie Margarets.

it would have been on what is now the health centre.

does anyone else remember it?

quincyg
02-26-2008, 08:51 PM
taken at the old Museum of Liverpool Life. there was cinema display and this picture was on the wall.
Pre digital days, so apols for the quality

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/abbey.jpg

PhilipG
02-26-2008, 09:51 PM
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quincyg
02-26-2008, 09:54 PM
great! much appreciated Philip. :PDT11

PhilipG
02-26-2008, 09:57 PM
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DaisyChains
02-27-2008, 08:11 PM
[QUOTE=PhilipG;114716]This thread has passed 500 posts.
Thanks to everybody. :hug::PDT_Aliboronz_11::PDT_Aliboronz_24::[/QUOTE

Brilliant work everybody.
A big thank you to our resident cinema main man, Mr PhilipG :hug::handclap:

quincyg
02-27-2008, 08:12 PM
probably already on here...taken today

don't know the old names off hand, but I'm sure someone will...hello Philip! :PDT16

Brewster St , Kirkdale
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1305.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1307.jpg

Warbreck Moor , Walton Vale
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1327.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1326.jpg

DaisyChains
02-27-2008, 08:27 PM
Great pics!

Philip, I was wondering if you have seen the photo of the interior of the Camden Cinema by London Road, when it was all done up for the release of the Ghost Train?
My dad has that pic.

Ged
02-27-2008, 09:50 PM
That was the Shakespeare (Fraser st) I think and it's in a book I have done up like that. The picture house in Camden street was the Gaumont.

PhilipG
02-27-2008, 10:50 PM
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quincyg
02-27-2008, 11:18 PM
The Princess was one of the few Liverpool cinemas to make it into a national architectural journal.
(They were too posh to call themselves magazines!).
Here's a picture from the Architectural Review when the Princess was new in 1931.
It went over to bingo in 1966 and closed a few years ago.
It's a rare example of a cinema having two show facades because it faced two roads - Selwyn Street and Brewster Road (or Street?).

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2064/2169015899_f1becd45b0_o.jpg

Shoemarket was the Aintree Palace, and the cinema foyer done up like a station booking office was the Trocadero/Gaumont in Camden Street.
It's a Stewart Bale photo, and was issued as a postcard.

I usually have a book to hand with all my notes in, but I don't know where it is at the moment, so everything I've just said is from memory.

great Philip, thanks for the info. Knew you'd come up with the goods. Superb picture of the Princess. Shame it doesn't look as good as that now. Still at least it's not been demolished.

I've found a good pic of the Abbey in one of my Liverpool books. will scan it when I've found a few others to be done.

DaisyChains
02-28-2008, 01:24 PM
That was the Shakespeare (Fraser st) I think and it's in a book I have done up like that. The picture house in Camden street was the Gaumont.

sorry guys. i was relying on memory!

quincyg
02-28-2008, 07:21 PM
(Prescot Rd/Green Lane)
took this today.

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1366.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/Picture1365.jpg

gregs dad
02-28-2008, 07:37 PM
Had my first date in the Princess cinema with my missus on the 1st January
1956 and we having our golden wedding this year. I can`t remember what we saw.

quincyg
02-28-2008, 07:40 PM
Had my first date in the Princess cinema with my missus on the 1st January
1956 and we having our golden wedding this year. I can`t remember what we saw.

just how it should be.:PDT_Aliboronz_11:
congrats!

quincyg
03-01-2008, 12:21 AM
after a frustrating evening with scanner and Photobucket finally got this uploaded

The Abbey in 1979 just after it closed. from 'Images of England - Wavertree'

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging2/abbey79.jpg

loved the Abbey, it was my local cinema and I saw my very first film there, a re-run of Mary Poppins.

PhilipG
03-01-2008, 01:30 PM
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DaisyChains
03-02-2008, 04:35 PM
One of the best cinema facades in Merseyside.
But it's been demolished.

The Astoria, Walton Road.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2102/2168987307_d5d48a5f15_o.jpg

was this listed Philip?

PhilipG
03-02-2008, 08:19 PM
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PhilipG
03-03-2008, 11:53 AM
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quincyg
03-03-2008, 12:41 PM
what a fabulous pic. I was there just last week taking a photo of the old Dunlop gatehouse and the side of the pub. It's very different along there now, not least the traffic lol.

taffy
03-03-2008, 01:36 PM
Has anyone any info about this cinema which was sited in Heald St

quincyg
03-05-2008, 02:05 PM
Future of cinema in the balance

Mar 5 2008 by Nick Coligan, Liverpool Echo

THE future of Liverpool’s oldest cinema building is still uncertain after councillors failed to reach a final decision.

The current owner of Bedford Hall, in Walton, wants to demolish it and build 26 houses and flats in its place.

Councillors were expected to reject the scheme yesterday on the grounds it would cause the loss of “a local amenity of great historic interest”.

But they instead deferred making a final decision to give the owner one last chance to incorporate the Bedford Road building’s classic frontage into the new development.

A previous request was rejected earlier this year.

The building was opened in 1910 and is one of the five oldest survivors of its type in the country.

PhilipG
03-05-2008, 02:14 PM
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PhilipG
03-06-2008, 12:19 AM
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taffy
03-06-2008, 12:43 AM
Thanks for the info Phillip. Much appreciated. :handclap::handclap:

Ged
03-06-2008, 12:32 PM
Brilliant info and pics Philip.

Ross08
03-07-2008, 01:25 AM
A great photo... And there's another piece of Liverpool history - that's the Flemings Jeans shop innit?

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/123456789.jpg

Now, The Astoria in Walton Road. For years I've had it in my head that this cinema was on the right just before the flyover if you're heading out of town - just by the swimming pool. Now, though, this doesn't seem to make sense. When I saw Flemings in the photo, it made me think. Was the Astoria on the other side of the road and nearer the other end of the road?

quincyg
03-07-2008, 01:43 AM
A great photo... And there's another piece of Liverpool history - that's the Flemings Jeans shop innit?

Now, The Astoria in Walton Road. For years I've had it in my head that this cinema was on the right just before the flyover if you're heading out of town - just by the swimming pool. Now, though, this doesn't seem to make sense. When I saw Flemings in the photo, it made me think. Was the Astoria on the other side of the road and nearer the other end of the road?

it's the town end. Way before the fly over. coming down Scotty and into Walton Rd it was on the left.
There's the post office, shops, few houses I think, then a small park. Medical centre (my hubby lived in the flat over that surgery for a few years) then the Halfway Hse pub. next block was the cinema.

Ross08
03-07-2008, 01:59 AM
Sorted... Thanks for that.

I'm glad you've cleared that up for me. I was up by the pool and the flyover the other day and I couldn't for the life of me work out where the cinema had been.

Cheers...

quincyg
03-07-2008, 02:01 AM
Sorted... Thanks for that.

I'm glad you've cleared that up for me. I was up by the pool and the flyover the other day and I couldn't for the life of me work out where the cinema had been.

Cheers...

no problem. it's often hard to picture where buildings were once they've been demolished.

PhilipG
03-07-2008, 09:23 AM
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skgogosfan
03-10-2008, 03:17 AM
I was really sorry to see the Astoria go,it was a lovely work of art. I wrote off to try and get it listed but to no avail. :( Can anyone from the area tell me if they've started building anything on the site,or is it still vacant?

Dave.

robbo176
03-10-2008, 09:17 AM
I was really sorry to see the Astoria go,it was a lovely work of art. I wrote off to try and get it listed but to no avail. :( Can anyone from the area tell me if they've started building anything on the site,or is it still vacant?

Dave.

Hi Dave
they haven't done anything with the land at all
Flemings Jeans was also demolished but was rebuilt as a Chemist last year

Mandy

skgogosfan
03-10-2008, 07:17 PM
Thanks Mandy. Somehow I'm not surprised it's still idle. Plans get dreamed up for something,the old building is pulled down...then something puts a spanner in and nothing new gets built for years.

Dave.

Ross08
03-11-2008, 03:28 AM
We were only talking about Flemings the other day after me seeing the photo on the forum.

Good quality jeans indeed, and they last forever. We're from the Wirral, but I remember probably about 15+ years ago sitting in me dads car while he went in to get a pair of Flemings. He still wears them now.

TonyS
03-11-2008, 02:50 PM
They were putting scaffolding around this building this morning.


http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2339/2133884122_9f7a6279ca_o.jpg

PhilipG
03-11-2008, 04:14 PM
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gregs dad
03-11-2008, 06:53 PM
The Astoria was on the corner of Furness Street, close to Fountains Road.
It's hard to believe that it was one of seven cinemas, all close together.
The Grosvenor, Doric (Westminster Hall), Garrick, Lyric, Astoria, Victory and Queens were all close by.
The Astoria was called the ABC Walton before it closed, although it wasn't really in Walton.

Walton Baths, as well as Garston and Lodge Lane were used as cinemas a couple of years before purpose-built cinemas opened.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/227398859/in/set-72157594265619936/

The Grosvenor,Garrick,Astoria,Victory and Queens were the ones I frequented
most as a youngster. The first 3 were easily bunked into without paying.
The Garrick had two entrances the main one was very grand, up a flight of steps and used by the better off patrons. The other was opposite Sandhey street were we poor people entered. The difference was in the seating.
them that used the front entrance had plush upholstered seats while we had
benches to sit on. Needless to say when lights went out for the start of the film there was a mass exodus on our bellies to the posh seats.
There was also the Popular on Netherfield Rd which we visited on our school
holidays for the afternoon shows it only cost 4d to get in,if you had no money
you could give 6 empty jam jars in lieu as there was money paid on empty jars
and lemonade bottles in those days.
Who thinks recycling is new?

PhilipG
03-11-2008, 11:29 PM
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Ged
03-12-2008, 11:02 AM
Something definitely wrong. You expect certain criteria has to be met, you'd think it's position as being one of only 5 oldest facades in the UK should be well enough.

Even though a building is privately owned, it shouldn't matter, just like if they wanted an extension or neon sign putting up, they have to approach the council for permission, likewise they should have to approach the council for something as drastic as changing this frontage or :shock: actually demolishing it.

Sirob
03-14-2008, 12:52 PM
If nobody can get the council to issue an emergency stop order on the demolition, then at least try to preserve the foundation stones - front of hall at ground level. these record who laid them and the date.

Ged
03-14-2008, 04:31 PM
Some memories of Lyton street cinema, lifted off another forum.


Re: barricks in everton road. frank

hi it depends what way you wear walking if you was going towards BRECK ROAD it wason the left just after LYTON STREET .I remember my grandad telling me a story abuot the war hesaid ther use to be a machine gun based on top of the picture house , in lyton street during the blitz just imagin that .

03/07/08 at 03:20:06 IP: 195.93.21.68

Re: barricks in everton road. Audrey O'keefe

Thanks Guys, I remember the Lytton picture house, I use to go every Friday with my mum, I remember the wooden benches, and the chestnut man in the winter, my dad was born in 9 lytton street, and my uncle Louis Hatchard was the coal man he had stables for his horses, and thee was a shop owned by Mrs Tyson........... aaarrrhhh the good old days.

03/08/08 at 16:57:02

Ross08
03-19-2008, 07:44 PM
MARCH 2008 - The former Capitol cinema, St. Helens.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/STHELENSMAR2008.jpg

Now occupied by the YMCA and used as a fitness centre.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/STHELENSMARCH2008.jpg

I'd be pleased to hear from anybody with any more information or photographs relating to the Capitol.

Ross - burgregister@googlemail.com

quincyg
03-19-2008, 08:09 PM
as it's not Liverpool it isn't in the cinemas book I've got. what road is it on, that may help the Google search.

quincyg
03-19-2008, 08:18 PM
YMCA site says it was a squash club which was formerly the Capitol Cinema.

Ross08
03-20-2008, 01:48 AM
Former Capitol cinema.
Liscard Village, Wallasey CH45.

MARCH 2008 -

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/CAPITOLWALLASEYMAR2008.jpg

The roof of the Capitol has recently been removed, making me wonder whether demolition may be imminent.
It looks as though the auditorium is in a poor state. It could well be that the former cinema is being re-roofed, or perhaps this main part of the building is to be re-built.

A firm of solicitors occupy the first floor of the 1926 building and the facade is still intact. It would seem that it is just the auditorium that is being worked on just now.
I had heard unoficially that the building - which last ran on bingo almost a decade ago - was to become a snooker hall, but I don't know whether or not this is true. It's also known locally that J.D. Wetherspoon had considered taking up the premises; but they have since opened elsewhere in Liscard.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/CAPITOLWALLASEYMARCH2008.jpg

Ross08
04-16-2008, 11:17 PM
16th APRIL 2008 -

I met a lovely couple in Liscard today, we were talking about the Capitol and the apparent demolition that's taking place. The man and his wife had been regular visitors to both the Capitol and the nearby Liscard Electric Palace in Seaview Road.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/CAPITOL-WALLASEY-APRIL2008.jpg

From the photograph - and that's about as much as I could see today - it certainly looks like the auditorium is going to be completely demolished rather than restored.

PhilipG
04-16-2008, 11:30 PM
It might be stating the obvious, but hasn't anybody asked what's happening?
The Capitol had a separate ballroom as well as the cinema.
Presumably it would be possible to demolish both the cinema and the ballroom, and then leave the shops intact (I'm assuming they're still open. If they've closed that would indicate that everything is to be demolished.)

The Capitol in St Helens opened in 1929.

Ross08
04-16-2008, 11:45 PM
Yes, the shops are still open - almost all of them in fact.

It would seem that it's just the auditorium and the ballroom (that I'd forgotten about) that are being demolished.

Sad to see what's happening to the Capitol, but as the facade is remaining, I would imagine that a lot of people will remain unaware of what's actually being done.

- Whenever I've visited recently, there have been no workers on site and so I've not been able to find out what's happening.

Ross08
04-23-2008, 01:17 AM
Photographs from today. This cinema opened in 1922.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/GRAPHIC-BOALERSTREETKENSINGTON-APR2.jpg

The Cosy closed earlier than a lot of other local cinemas, fifty years ago in fact, in 1958.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/GRAPHIC-BOALERSTKENSINGTON-APR2008.jpg

marky
04-23-2008, 09:38 AM
^Boaler Street: There's a date on this building, scratched into the mortar, high above the left-hand door. From memory, I think it relates to MIL.

PhilipG
04-23-2008, 10:26 AM
^Boaler Street: There's a date on this building, scratched into the mortar, high above the left-hand door. From memory, I think it relates to MIL.

Interesting.
MIL have only been there for a couple of years, I think.
It was a warehouse for E R Hughes, the butchers, for years.

BTW, regarding cinema closures.
It was the introduction of ITV in 1955 (plus an Entertainments Tax) that caused mass closures of cinemas, starting in 1956.
After that, more and more cinemas closed every year.
Prior to 1956 it was a rare event if a cinema closed.

Ross08
04-23-2008, 12:02 PM
Interesting post Philip. Some good info.

There is in fact a bit of a plaque on the front of the cinema building. It looks like it's been written by hand - as Marky said, scratched into the mortar. It reads 'MIL 2005'. I think somebody's done it as a joke.

Samp
04-23-2008, 07:45 PM
The Grosvenor,Garrick,Astoria,Victory and Queens were the ones I frequented
most as a youngster. The first 3 were easily bunked into without paying.
The Garrick had two entrances the main one was very grand, up a flight of steps and used by the better off patrons. The other was opposite Sandhey street were we poor people entered. The difference was in the seating.
them that used the front entrance had plush upholstered seats while we had
benches to sit on. Needless to say when lights went out for the start of the film there was a mass exodus on our bellies to the posh seats.
There was also the Popular on Netherfield Rd which we visited on our school
holidays for the afternoon shows it only cost 4d to get in,if you had no money
you could give 6 empty jam jars in lieu as there was money paid on empty jars
and lemonade bottles in those days.
Who thinks recycling is new?

--------------------------------------------

Your Giving your age away there Gerard's dad. I thought the Lytton was the only one that accepted jam jars!

Samp
04-23-2008, 07:50 PM
Sorry I have just had a senior moment, I ment Greg's dad.

marky
04-29-2008, 09:45 AM
Park Palace, Mill Street
I've been told this was on BBC TV a few days ago. I can't find a link on 'Google'
It does get a mention on this site, about re-opening later this year.
http://www.georgegroves.org.uk/blog.html

quincyg
04-29-2008, 12:37 PM
Park Palace, Mill Street
I've been told this was on BBC TV a few days ago. I can't find a link on 'Google'
It does get a mention on this site, about re-opening later this year.
http://www.georgegroves.org.uk/blog.html

it's was on the BBC's regional prog Inside Out. I only caught the end of the piece.
it could be on the BBC Iplayer maybe?

Wooltonian
05-07-2008, 06:10 AM
scouserddave.
I think we have met before. I just joined this forum, and seem to remember we have talked photography before.

Good to see you contributing on here.
Wooltonian (Brian Seddon)

Harbourm
05-11-2008, 05:10 PM
There used to be a cinema just before Tue Brook railway bridge on the left going toward town. I'm banging my head again'st the wall trying to remember what it was called. I think it was turned into I don't know what in the late forties/early fifties. Anyone any idea's?

PhilipG
05-11-2008, 05:56 PM
There used to be a cinema just before Tue Brook railway bridge on the left going toward town. I'm banging my head again'st the wall trying to remember what it was called. I think it was turned into I don't know what in the late forties/early fifties. Anyone any idea's?

It was the Empress.
Opened 1915 and closed 1960.
In 1961 it was converted into Cooper's supermarket with a rebuilt frontage. The supermarket was closed about 1968 for demolition, and the site was used for toilets and the entrance to a subway under West Derby Road.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/2482761889_06190f55c7_o.jpg

lindylou
05-11-2008, 05:59 PM
phew, Philip you really know your cinemas :)

I hadn't heard of that one even though I was born just over the way from Tuebrook.

By your description - was it by Oak Leigh and New rd?

there is a building on the corner of new rd that looks like it could have been a cinema. It is a church now.

PhilipG
05-11-2008, 06:20 PM
Yes, it was on the corner of Oak Leigh, near New Road.
West Derby Road was also widened about 1969, so the building went completely (as said).
That church has been there for over 100 years, perhaps - there used to be a pub next door to it, on West Derby Road.

PhilipG
05-24-2008, 09:45 PM
The former Bedford Cinema in Walton has just been demolished.

From this...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2062/2248008318_3a0fb85326_o.jpg

...to this.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2518875093_a74e66ed5c_o.jpg

marky
05-29-2008, 02:09 PM
Futurist, Lime Street. It looks like the last sections of artwork are going up today. Workmen were there earlier.

lindylou
05-29-2008, 03:05 PM
Philip, thanks for keeping us informed about the Bedford cinema.

I'm sorry that they demolished it after all. :sad: it's disgraceful that they did that :PDT_Xtremez_12: :PDT_Xtremez_12:

robbo176
05-29-2008, 06:04 PM
The former Bedford Cinema in Walton has just been demolished.

From this...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2062/2248008318_3a0fb85326_o.jpg

...to this.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2378/2518875093_a74e66ed5c_o.jpg

thanks for the update Philip,I agree with Lindylou that its a disgrace that they've knocked it down :PDT_Xtremez_12:

shoney
06-20-2008, 12:54 PM
just found this fab piece on the Abbey http://www.wooltoncinema.co.uk/html/cinematributes.html

brought back some memories, including summat I'd forgotton...the first supermarket to go in the old building was LENNONS. now there's a blast from the past. we used to walk the roughly 2 miles up there to do our shopping then get the 79 home.

can't believe it's 25 years since it closed , I loved that cinema *sniff*

before lennons went in it stood vacant for a while with an advertising placard above the door obviously advertising the last film there, it was the towering inferno if i remember correctly

Alan Smithee
06-22-2008, 01:01 PM
Hi Lindylou!

So...does anyone on this forum remember the name of the cinema in Granby Street? I can remember going there in the mid 60's as a kid, it was a very old fashioned cinema even then, and I think it had an old fashioned name like the Regal, or Tivoli.

Great to see pics of the Abbey - remember going there once in the 70's to see Mary Poppins.

Other cinemas I have memories of in Liverpool would be the main ones in the centre, like the Odeon, ABC, Futurist, Scala, the Studio cinemas on Mount Pleasant (think that was all of the main ones).

I lived in Kirkby from 68 - 79, and they built a cinema there in the 70's above the Woolco store (where I used to work as a salesman on the furniture and carpets dept) called the J and A cinema, which also had a bingo hall next to it.

Horrible, tatty little place, to be honest.

I left Liverpool in '79, and up until '92 actually worked as a cinema manager in London for the Classic chain, who went on to be Cannon/MGM, and for a while also for CIC cinemas who then owned the Empire Leicester Square, and the now defunct Plaza in Lower Regent Street.

marky
07-02-2008, 01:33 AM
Park Palace: Workmen were clearing stuff into a skip outside. They must be getting it ready for its' re-opening later in the year. Both doors were open, but the only thing I could see was a large empty hall.

PhilipG
07-02-2008, 09:54 AM
Hi Lindylou!

So...does anyone on this forum remember the name of the cinema in Granby Street? I can remember going there in the mid 60's as a kid, it was a very old fashioned cinema even then, and I think it had an old fashioned name like the Regal, or Tivoli.



It was the Prince's.
Originally it was called the Granby.

PhilipG
07-15-2008, 01:03 AM
The floor of the exit from the screen end.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3247/2653215206_e5319cb709_o.jpg

lindylou
07-15-2008, 11:37 AM
Sad picture Philip :(

marky
07-19-2008, 08:12 PM
Park Palace plans:
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/07/18/palace-of-dreams-100252-21362955/

southerncross
07-22-2008, 03:21 AM
Here's a New Brighton photo (Victoria Road?) from the 90s--the building to the left looks like it may have been a cinema. Or a bank. Any ideas? I would be very surprised if it were still standing.

HI NANCY, THE PHOTO YOU HAVE TAKEN WAS THE (TROCADERO CINEMA) IT WAS IN ITS DAY, A VERY FINE BUILDING,SAW MANY ROY ROGERS AND JOHN WAYNE FILMS THERE,FURTHER UP VICTORIA ROAD ,WALKING AWAY FROM THE RIVER WAS THE (COURT CINEMA) REGARDS

marky
08-07-2008, 01:37 PM
A portable Cinema is in William Brown Street. (for this weekends Childrens Festival). It's inside a cargo container.
There's supposed to be an open-air Cinema (an inflatable screen?) in St James Gardens. I think it costs £4-£6 to view. I didn't see it there this morning.
http://www.theliverpoolshakespearefestival.co.uk/

quincyg
08-07-2008, 05:07 PM
this was in my 08 email this afternoon

From 7- 9 August the Lodestar Theatre Company bring you Liverpool's only Open Air Cinema in the stunning setting of St James' Gardens next to Liverpool Cathedral. For only £6 (conc £4), you can enjoy three films on a huge, inflatable airscreen, each with Shakespeare in mind.

On 7 August you can see John Madden's Shakespeare in Love, on 8 August Al Pacino's Looking for Richard will be screened starring Winona Ryder, Kevin Spacey and Alec Baldwin, and on 9 August Baz Luhrmann's Romeo & Juliet starring Leonardo DiCaprio and Clare Danes. Doors open at 8pm, films start at 9pm.

For tickets call 0151 727 1703 or go into the News From Nowhere on Bold Street, or the gift shop at Liverpool Cathedral and some tickets will also be available on the door in St James' Gardens.

robbo176
08-07-2008, 07:21 PM
the former cinema in Mere Lane was set alight last night :PDT_Xtremez_12:

PhilipG
08-07-2008, 07:42 PM
the former cinema in Mere Lane was set alight last night :PDT_Xtremez_12:

Out of all the former cinema sites in Liverpool, that's about the only place where I've felt uncomfortable, and that was even before there was a murder there.
The last time I was there I saw a lot of hoardings, so I don't know if the area is any better now.
The actual building has been altered so much (on the exterior, at least), that it's not worth photographing anymore.

Here's how it was in March 2007.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3003/2741410081_df2b662ca3_o.jpg

etmsreec
08-07-2008, 09:11 PM
Hiya,

I've only just found this site, having started out looking for the Carling Academy in Liverpool, near the Odeon. Never realized that the Odeon on London Road was originally a single screen - I thought it was a travesty when the made it into 5 by creating a screen in what used to be the bar...

While my sister and I were growing up, my Dad worked for a firm in Toxteth called Haywards (I think that's spelled correctly) who did a lot of work for local cinemas, theatres and such like. The thing that looked like a shed on the top of the front of the Carlton for so many years through the late 70s and 1980s was put up by my Dad! Growing up, we rarely paid to get into cinemas as my Dad would just have a chat to the manager, get us in, then he and mum would be having a drink with the manager in the interval!

My Dad's favourite place to take us was the Abbey in Wavertree I think, followed by the Carlton. I think we saw The Spy Who Loved Me in the Abbey. Definitely saw Watership Down there as we got past all of the families queuing up at the front doors. My mother was mortified when we went in a side door!

Does anyone remember the manager at the Abbey being held at gunpoint in his home and then forced to hand over the takings from the theatre? I think it was about 1976 or maybe 1977? Before the Towering Inferno which was, as someone else mentioned, the final picture that the Abbey presented. A lovely theatre with a fantastic stairwell. Nearest I've seen to it since then was the one in H.H.Robertson's factory which used to be in Cromwell Road, Ellesmere Port.

At one point, the Liverpool Echo took a picture of Fred, the cat at the Forum. Not sure what the occasion was, but my sister still had a copy of the picture last time I was round at her house. At that point, it was still a single screen and both the Scala and the Futurist were still open. They had a high level walkway if I remember rightly that took you from one theatre to the other. My sister and I saw Grease at one of them when it was released in 1978.

Occasionally, we'd venture as far as Birkenhead and go to what was, by then, the Classic on Conway Street. It was rare to go there though. My grandparents went to a picture house on the other side of the road (was it the Ritz?) during the 2nd war. They were still a courting couple and decided that, rather than stay there when the sirens went off, they'd go home. They later found out the picture house had taken a direct hit. Not their time to go!

My family rarely went to the Classic in Allerton, but I remember seeing all of the first six Star Trek movies there, three on Saturday and three on Sunday, just before Generations came out. Seems a very long time ago! :(

etmsreec
08-07-2008, 09:41 PM
Ironic that I no sooner write the above post than I flick to the first page in this thread and realize that the chaps' name that I was trying to think of, Ambler Ramsden, was mentioned in the first post.

My Dad usually referred to him as Rammey and only very occasionally by his full name.

Does anyone have any pictures of the Rialto in Toxteth as a picture house? As well as having done work in a lot of Liverpool theatres in the 1970s, he was also manager of the Rialto at one point apparently.

steveb
08-08-2008, 06:35 PM
Ironic that I no sooner write the above post than I flick to the first page in this thread and realize that the chaps' name that I was trying to think of, Ambler Ramsden, was mentioned in the first post.

My Dad usually referred to him as Rammey and only very occasionally by his full name.

Does anyone have any pictures of the Rialto in Toxteth as a picture house? As well as having done work in a lot of Liverpool theatres in the 1970s, he was also manager of the Rialto at one point apparently.

Wasn't he also connected with the cabbage hall picture house, talking
of which still found no pic,s of it prior to LFC supporters club

lindylou
08-08-2008, 07:01 PM
If you ever find any let me know. I would love to see any pics of the Cabbage hall.

steveb
08-08-2008, 10:41 PM
If you ever find any let me know. I would love to see any pics of the Cabbage hall.

Hi
hope you are well. I have searched everywere, all to no avail.
I remember it well as my gran worked the ticket box, but I never
ever saw any pic,s.

Steve

marky
08-09-2008, 03:34 PM
Portable Cinema

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Movie_Plex.jpg

http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee262/south_liverpool/Movieplex_sign.jpg

PhilipG
09-02-2008, 07:29 PM
The author of "Dream Palaces of Liverpool"; "Southport Stage and Screen", and "Liverpool Theatres" has died.
I think he would have approved of his death being reported in this thread.
R.I.P. Mr Ackroyd.

Harold Ackroyd - Liverpool Daily Post.co.uk (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/views/obituaries/2008/09/02/harold-ackroyd-64375-21651234/)

.

Ged
09-02-2008, 10:28 PM
Yes R.I.P. Harold.

Sirob
09-02-2008, 11:21 PM
I second that, Ged. "Dream Palaces of Liverpool" is one of my favourite books

AntiPathos
09-03-2008, 12:53 AM
The author of "Dream Palaces of Liverpool"; "Southport Stage and Screen", and "Liverpool Theatres" has died.
I think he would have approved of his death being reported in this thread.
R.I.P. Mr Ackroyd.

Harold Ackroyd - Liverpool Daily Post.co.uk (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/views/obituaries/2008/09/02/harold-ackroyd-64375-21651234/)

.

R I P

I'll have to go and get myself copies of those books now...

Ged
09-03-2008, 01:31 AM
The entrance to the containerised mobile/portable cinema featured in Marky's earlier pic which was situated in William Brown st for a festival.


http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/821/wmbrfestcinemaentaug08ff1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/wmbrfestcinemaentaug08ff1.jpg/1/w600.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img387/wmbrfestcinemaentaug08ff1.jpg/1/)

marky
09-10-2008, 06:42 PM
Tuebrook Cinema/Coconut Grove/The Venue: Plans passed. Demolition to follow. Here's some links from 2006-2008...

Coconut Club site on sale for 1.6m - LDPbusiness (http://www.ldpbusiness.co.uk/commercial-property-liverpool/commercial-property-news/2006/05/17/coconut-club-site-on-sale-for-1-6m-96026-17090708/)

New battle on club site - Liverpool Echo.co.uk (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/07/31/new-battle-on-club-site-100252-21438321/)

Go-ahead on flats at club site - Liverpool Echo.co.uk (http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2008/09/10/go-ahead-on-flats-at-club-site-100252-21716060/)

marky
10-15-2008, 01:38 PM
Park Palace:
The name was getting fitted today. I'm sure it re-opens this evening (as a theatre).

A Biennial artwork road-sign has appeared again outside The Futurist.

18stanley
11-08-2008, 07:00 PM
OK Phil, thanks. As I have said before I used to live in Winchester Rd which
is just round the corner from Lower Breck/Rochester Rd, and my Granny used
to work the ticket box in the "Cabby".

Talking of pre-1930's cinemas - has anybody ever traced photos of the pre-
30's Queens and Victory on County Road. And do they still exist as cinemas?
Stan H.

robbo176
11-08-2008, 07:41 PM
Talking of pre-1930's cinemas - has anybody ever traced photos of the pre-
30's Queens and Victory on County Road. And do they still exist as cinemas?
Stan H.

Hiya Stan
welcome to Yo :PDT_Piratz_26:
the site of the Queens cinema on Walton Rd is now a McDonalds carpark

Mandy

18stanley
11-08-2008, 11:47 PM
Many thanks Mandy - I'm not really surprised.It looked to be in need of a
hefty refurbishment even to my 10 year old eyes in 1930. But it used to be
the highlight of my young life every Saturday afternoon! Tom Mix, Hoot Gibson,
the early Hal Roach comedies, and of course Betty Boop, Pop-eye the Sailor
and the rest. Do you know whether it was the Germans who did for it or just
the march of Time? The Victory as I remember was rather a cut above but it
would surprise me if it turns out to be still going. How about the 3 upmarket
ones of those days - the Astoria,Princess and Commodore, which were my
teenage glamour providers - have they all gone too? Has anybody produced
any info on those, do you know? Thanks anyhow for your help. Stan H.

18stanley
11-09-2008, 12:04 AM
Smashing pic of the Astoria. It certainly was a fine building.
We'll never see the likes of cinemas like that again.

What's this about the Astoria? Am I to understand that it's gone? And,if so, how and when? I've just been told that the Queens is no longer on County Road. Are
there any cinemas left in Kirkdale? Stan H.

redjed1
11-09-2008, 02:35 AM
What's this about the Astoria? Am I to understand that it's gone? And,if so, how and when? I've just been told that the Queens is no longer on County Road. Are
there any cinemas left in Kirkdale? Stan H.

The Astoria is no more. I went to the Victory in the late 1950's, but it had disappeared by the 1970's. Don't remember the Queens. The Princess turned into a bingo hall in the 1970's. I believe they have now demolished the Bedford in Bedford Road. What a shame.

There is a good book available with all the old picture houses, including histories and pictures. Can't remember who the author is.

18stanley
11-09-2008, 10:02 AM
Here is a picture of the Atlas, taken in 1971.
More pictures of long gone cinemas to follow.
Copy them with pleasure
Hello there. Will there be any photos of old Kirkdale cinemas? I've only just
started researching this area but am rapidly getting the impression that it's
a forlorn enterprise. Particularly as they all seem to have disappeared into
limbo! Stan H.

PhilipG
11-09-2008, 12:09 PM
Many thanks Mandy - I'm not really surprised.It looked to be in need of a
hefty refurbishment even to my 10 year old eyes in 1930. But it used to be
the highlight of my young life every Saturday afternoon! Tom Mix, Hoot Gibson,
the early Hal Roach comedies, and of course Betty Boop, Pop-eye the Sailor
and the rest. Do you know whether it was the Germans who did for it or just
the march of Time? The Victory as I remember was rather a cut above but it
would surprise me if it turns out to be still going. How about the 3 upmarket
ones of those days - the Astoria,Princess and Commodore, which were my
teenage glamour providers - have they all gone too? Has anybody produced
any info on those, do you know? Thanks anyhow for your help. Stan H.

I've been taking photos of Liverpool's cinemas since 1982.
Both the Queens and the Victory had already been demolished.
The Queens went about 1980, and part of a side wall remained in 1982.
The Victory was demolished soon after it closed in 1961.
Harold Ackroyd's book has one photo of each, but the one of the Queens is rather poor, and only the entrance to the Victory is shown.
The Astoria was demolished a few years.
The Commodore and Princess are still standing, although there are plans to demolish the Princess.
The Grosvenor is still standing.
There are photos of the last four in my Flickr page.
Look in my "Sets".
There's also a photo of the Queen's when it was a supermarket.
That's in K G Rose's set.

18stanley
11-09-2008, 04:01 PM
great Philip, thanks for the info. Knew you'd come up with the goods. Superb picture of the Princess. Shame it doesn't look as good as that now. Still at least it's not been demolished.

I've found a good pic of the Abbey in one of my Liverpool books. will scan it when I've found a few others to be done.
Do you mind if I come in here,please? I'm still trying to find my way round all
these fascinating blogs. I've been searching info on the Princess and this photo
shows it in all glory,just as I remember it when I waited outside in the
evening trying to persuade some kind adult(s) to "take me in" because it was
an 'A' picture!! Many thanks Philip and for the info given elsewhere - you're
really doing a fantastic job and thoroughly merit all the appreciative remarks
you receive. If I can also put in a penn'orth of my own on the Astoria (also a
brilliant photo), it is certainly on the left hand side of the road coming from
town. I also remember it as one end of the Sunday evening "getting to know
you" parades which happened every week (the other end, if I remember
rightly) was Fusco's icecream parlour on the corner of County Road and
Harlech Street, I think it was. All memories now but still vivid and worth
recording. Stan H.

PhilipG
11-09-2008, 04:28 PM
You're welcome, Stan.
Thanks for your kind words.

As mentioned the Queens became a supermarket, but after that it became a "Social Club" (usually the term for bingo).
I've not been able to confirm it had bingo, but it had "Turns" and was one of the first places to employ Tom O'Connor, in the early 1970s.

gregs dad
11-09-2008, 05:14 PM
8436
Here`s the Grosvenor on Stanley Rd now a funeral parlour

Sirob
11-09-2008, 09:54 PM
Great enquiries, folks.
Here is the Astoria in 1995 and the Princess in 2008.

Sirob
11-09-2008, 10:24 PM
And the Commodore, Bank Hall, plus the Carlton, Tuebrook, both 2008

ItsaZappathing
11-09-2008, 10:48 PM
Fine pics once again Sirob. The Carlton was easy to bunk in. We used to go of a saturday afternoon and walk in the side door. The screen was always filthy and it even had an egg thrown at it which later dried up and stayed there for a good while.

Anyway good pics:handclap:

LondonBeatlesFan
11-10-2008, 12:48 AM
I was pleased to see a photo of the Carlton Cinema, Tuebrook here as it confirms that it was the one I saw when I was last in Liverpool. I went past that building on the bus and wondered whether it was the Carlton. I am interested in that cinema as its organ is now in the Gordon Craig Theatre, Stevenage, Hertfordshire. I am a big fan of cinema organs and have been to hear this one several times.

18stanley
11-10-2008, 03:27 PM
More obscure pics now;
What was left of the Lyric Theatre, Everton Valley, in August 1971. Located behind the pub, the partially demolished walls were used for years by Reardons Demolition contractors as a yard. Opened in 1897 as a theatre, converted to a cinema in 1922 , re-converted to a theatre again in 1925 and closed for good in 1932.
Frontage of the Queens cinema, Walton Road, in March 1973. Opened in 1913 and closed in 1959. Never part of a circuit, could only show second district runs and with the Astoria, Victory and Princess nearby, became an early casualty. Demolished 1980, after retail use.
Not a pretty sight but I don' think the Queens was ever an architectural gem,
and I don't think the Saturday afternoon 'specials' for the kids helped it. But it
has magical memories for me growing up in the 30's - with the cowboy serials
(Tom Mix and Hoot Gibson to cite only a couple of those who mesmerised us)
and the cartoons and the various Hal Roach comedies that preceded the 'big'
picture. The interval enabled the proprietors to make a liltle extra revenue
(and fumigate the premises) whilst the oocupantsof the front seats did their
best to shield themselves from a variety of missiles aimed from behind and
perhaps from above though I'm not sure whether the Queens had a balcony.
Your photo nevertheless graphically reflects the general atmosphere of dereliction still suffered by the Kirkdale of the fifties. Stan. H

PhilipG
11-10-2008, 06:17 PM
Not a pretty sight but I don' think the Queens was ever an architectural gem,
and I don't think the Saturday afternoon 'specials' for the kids helped it. But it
has magical memories for me growing up in the 30's - with the cowboy serials
(Tom Mix and Hoot Gibson to cite only a couple of those who mesmerised us)
and the cartoons and the various Hal Roach comedies that preceded the 'big'
picture. The interval enabled the proprietors to make a liltle extra revenue
(and fumigate the premises) whilst the oocupantsof the front seats did their
best to shield themselves from a variety of missiles aimed from behind and
perhaps from above though I'm not sure whether the Queens had a balcony.Your photo nevertheless graphically reflects the general atmosphere of dereliction still suffered by the Kirkdale of the fifties. Stan. H

No, it didn't have a balcony but plans to install one in 1927 were granted permission.
But nothing happened.

The organ in the Carlton was a Christie.
They were quite rare, because most cinema organs were Compton.
It's good to know the Carlton's organ survives, because the Carlton itself is slated for demolition, as is the Princess.

LondonBeatlesFan
11-10-2008, 06:24 PM
Yes, the Carlton organ was a Christie and a very good one at that. They were built by Hill, Norman and Beard and I am told that they used the name 'Christie' for their cinema organs as they didn't want to use HNB on cinema organs. There was always a lot of snobbery attached to this matter. My music teacher tried to discourage me from getting involved with the cinema organ as he hated them. I am not sure how the Carlton's organ sounded when it was in the cinema but it certainly sounds great in its present location. The percussion is the loudest I've ever heard on a cinema organ!

PhilipG
11-10-2008, 06:31 PM
Yes, the Carlton organ was a Christie and a very good one at that. They were built by Hill, Norman and Beard and I am told that they used the name 'Christie' for their cinema organs as they didn't want to use HNB on cinema organs. There was always a lot of snobbery attached to this matter. My music teacher tried to discourage me from getting involved with the cinema organ as he hated them. I am not sure how the Carlton's organ sounded when it was in the cinema but it certainly sounds great in its present location. The percussion is the loudest I've ever heard on a cinema organ!

The organ in the former Methodist Central Hall (here in Liverpool) is by Hill, Norman and Beard.
It was installed in 1907, and is still there, and presumably still playable.
In 2004 (I think) during a Heritage Weekend the hall was open, and somebody was tinkering on the organ.

LondonBeatlesFan
11-10-2008, 06:37 PM
Thank you for the information, Philip G. There are some excellent organs in Liverpool. I'll try to find out more about the one that you mentioned.

PhilipG
11-10-2008, 09:08 PM
Thank you for the information, Philip G. There are some excellent organs in Liverpool. I'll try to find out more about the one that you mentioned.

It's definitely Norman & Beard.
I wrote Hill, Norman & Beard because you did. :)
Apart from knowing which cinemas had which organs, I'm not an expert on organs.

Here's Central Hall:
Central Hall. on Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/44435674@N00/1085331561/in/set-72157601433151834/)

LondonBeatlesFan
11-10-2008, 11:02 PM
The William Hill Organ Company merged with Norman and Beard at some stage to form Hill Norman and Beard. I've played some Norman and Beard organs here in London. I'd like to know more about Liverpool organs. Perhaps I can start a new thread.

18stanley
11-10-2008, 11:54 PM
probably already on here but here's The Commodore and The Grosvenor taken today

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/Picture1239-1.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e28/quincyg/blogging%20pix/Picture1262-1.jpg

The Commodore, once the pride of north Liverpool!I remember trying for a week to get in to see City Lights with Charlie Chaplin - and that was in the
afternoons!! When would that be - early 30's? What a comedown. Stan. H

PhilipG
11-11-2008, 12:07 PM
The William Hill Organ Company merged with Norman and Beard at some stage to form Hill Norman and Beard. I've played some Norman and Beard organs here in London. I'd like to know more about Liverpool organs. Perhaps I can start a new thread.

We can keep the cinema organs here.

The dates refer to when the cinemas opened.
Some of the organs were later installations.

Liverpool.
Carlton, Tuebrook. 1932. Christie.
Curzon, Old Swan. 1936. Compton.
Forum, Lime Street. 1931. Compton.
Mayfair, Aigburth Road. 1937. Compton.
Paramount, London Road. 1934. Compton.
Philharmonic Hall. 1939. Rushworth & Dreaper. (Included in "Cinemas" because it has the last remaining Walturdaw rising cinema screen in the world).
Plaza, Allerton Road. 1928. WurliTzer.
Plaza, Waterloo (aka "Crosby"). 1939. Compton.
Rialto, Upper Parliament Street. 1927. Compton (Installed 1930).
Trocadero, Camden Street. 1922. WurliTzer (Organ moved to Gaumont, Park Road, Dingle).

Wirral.
Gaumont, Birkenhead. 1938. Compton.
Plaza, Birkenhead. 1930. Compton.
Regal, Bebington Road. 1938. Compton.
(Organ moved to Winter Gardens, New Brighton c1941).
Rialto, Bebington Road. 1933. Compton.
Ritz, Birkenhead. 1937. Compton (Destroyed 1940, replaced by a Christie).


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Ged
11-11-2008, 01:36 PM
Great info Phil. Nice to see our local the Gaumont's (Trocadero) organ found a place next door to you.

marky
11-11-2008, 01:50 PM
Here's a site which features the Gaumont, Dingle organ:
index (http://www.voxlancastria.org.uk/heritage/)

gregs dad
11-11-2008, 02:11 PM
I seem to remember the Astoria had an organ which we sang along to on
childrens saturday matinees

LondonBeatlesFan
11-11-2008, 02:41 PM
Thank you PhilipG. This is really useful information.

LondonBeatlesFan
11-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Thank you, Marky. I'd seen that site before but didn't remember that the organ came from Liverpool. I hope to go to that museum some time.

PhilipG
11-11-2008, 04:40 PM
I seem to remember the Astoria had an organ which we sang along to on
childrens saturday matinees

The Astoria was built with space for an organ, but one was never installed.
You probably sang along to a record.

How did it go?
"We come along on Saturday morning, greeting everybody with a smile.
We come along on Saturday morning, knowing that it's all worth while."

Or was that the GB Club?


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Ged
11-11-2008, 04:54 PM
Was this before or after Tiswas with Sally James ?


:PDT_Xtremez_42::002:

PhilipG
11-11-2008, 05:21 PM
Was this before or after Tiswas with Sally James ?


:PDT_Xtremez_42::002:



Must have been before, Ged, as I worked on Saturdays, even when I was at school.

TISWAS.
Did the initials stand for "This Is Saturday With A Smile"?

Ged
11-11-2008, 05:57 PM
I thought it was This is Saturday, Watch and smile but you may be right as i'm not positive.

quincyg
11-11-2008, 06:18 PM
Today Is Saturday Watch And Smile

was mentioned on a docu about kids telly ages ago.

although I preferred Swap Shop :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Ross08
12-07-2008, 08:21 PM
I went the other day to a sports shop in Utting Avenue (Taskers?) and was rather intrigued by the building.

I'm sure it used to be a cinema, it certainly looks as though it was. I've looked through my books and I don't recall it being mentioned on the forum before.

Any info?

Sirob
12-07-2008, 08:48 PM
You are indeed right . It was the Ritz Super Cinema. Opened in 1929 and closed in June 1957. Being independent, it suffered from competition from the circuits, ABC/ Gaumont, which showed first run films. An early casualty of television.
Pic taken last summer.

Ross08
12-07-2008, 08:56 PM
Thanks a lot, I knew we'd soon have somebody along with the answer!
Indeed, that is an early closure isn't it. Inside the building some of the doorways are still there leading off of where the foyer would have been.

Would be great to see some older photos if anybody has any :)

Sirob
12-07-2008, 09:15 PM
Any other traces of it's cinema past? Perhaps it's worth a visit.
Photo's of the suburban cinemas is patchy, to say the least. There is a view of the entrance, in Harold Ackroyd's book "Dream Palaces of Liverpool".

briden27
12-08-2008, 12:39 PM
Good to hear people talking about the Curzon.It brought back memories.Although it wasnt my local my eldest brother took my brother and myself there to watch Rio Bravo.The big films came later at our local cinema,which I've forgotton the name.
Can anyone help.It was on Overton Street in Wavetree.On the corner of Overton Street and Wavetree Road was Sturlas department store then the cinema and opposite was a joke shop

Sirob
12-08-2008, 01:10 PM
The Capitol cinema was on Overton Street Opened. in 1930 and closed in 1961. Demolished a long time ago.

briden27
12-08-2008, 03:48 PM
Thanks Sirob
Your spot on.I used to go to matinees there in the late fifties.
Did Sturlas expand when the Cappy closed

marky
12-11-2008, 12:58 PM
A Flickr member has some internal pics of the Carlton, Tuebrook.
Carlton Cinema, Liverpool - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/comradethompski/sets/72157610910701215/)

steveb
12-24-2008, 09:59 PM
Brilliant, considering it was closed 25 odd years ago.
Iam surprised the projectors were left, mind you it
is old tech now, many thanks for the pic,s

Ged
02-03-2009, 12:56 PM
The approach down the revitalised College Lane to the new Odeon at Liverpool 1.



http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3923/odeanl1rd7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/odeanl1rd7.jpg/1/w960.png (http://g.imageshack.us/img12/odeanl1rd7.jpg/1/)




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Paddy
02-03-2009, 04:27 PM
Thats a rather steep staircase too climb, esp in this day and age.

Ged
02-03-2009, 04:52 PM
It's a stategy. It means they can charge even more for the drinks at the top.

Paddy
02-03-2009, 07:38 PM
Imagine coming down with a buggy :ninja:

Ged
02-04-2009, 11:45 AM
Imagine coming down with the flu.


There are lifts too :)

Ross08
02-06-2009, 07:35 AM
An alternative view of the former ODEON, London Road...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/BackOfFormerODEONLondonroad-JAN2009.jpg

Taken in January 2009 from the top level of the NCP car park in Lord Nelson Street.

Ross08
02-09-2009, 02:10 AM
One of my favourite cinemas has to be the Plaza in Waterloo. It's been enhanced recently with the addition of a new Art Deco-style canopy.

This photo isn't particularly good, but I really like the new canopy. All the films that are now showing are displayed on the illuminated canopy.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/PLAZA.jpg

Ged
02-09-2009, 11:12 AM
Great pics Ross, keep em' coming.

Ross08
02-09-2009, 01:46 PM
I can't find any info right now about this one, but here's the Pavilion 'Pivvy' Bingo Club on Lodge Lane.

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/Pavilion-LodgeLaneToxteth-2008.jpg

Obviously the front elevation has been altered in recent times, but I suspect it might have been a cinema...

Ross08
03-11-2009, 01:35 AM
Does anybody have any information on this (former cinema?) in Victoria Road, Widnes?

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/WIDNES-MAR20082.jpg

I also had some photographs of the former cinema in Peel House Lane, but I've managed to misplace them; and there was also the smaller cinema nearby that's since become a J.D Wetherspoon pub (The Premier?).

PhilipG
03-11-2009, 02:03 AM
The Pivvy in Lodge Lane was the Pavilion.
A theatre.
It never became a cinema.
It was 100 years old when you took that photo.
There was a fire in 1986 which completely gutted the beautiful auditorium, which had to be demolished and replaced.

The Queens Hall in Widnes is a converted chapel.
It wasn't a cinema.

Wetherspoons in Widnes was the Premier cinema, but the front has been demolished.


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ItsaZappathing
03-11-2009, 11:34 AM
An alternative view of the former ODEON, London Road...

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/BackOfFormerODEONLondonroad-JAN2009.jpg

Taken in January 2009 from the top level of the NCP car park in Lord Nelson Street.

Cracker pics Ross.:handclap: Nice to see the Odeon from a different angle.:PDT_Piratz_26:

Howie
03-17-2009, 12:12 AM
http://web.onetel.net.uk/~howardpaterson/uploads/Bar_de_Mille.jpg

Kev
03-17-2009, 09:34 AM
Smashing pics all. Ross, I love that one of The Odeon, London Rd. The little building on the corner!

Cheers for the info Phil :handclap:

Davec
03-17-2009, 03:32 PM
Smashing pics all. Ross, I love that one of The Odeon, London Rd. The little building on the corner!

Cheers for the info Phil :handclap:

The little building on the corner! = Ma Egerton's I think

Ged
03-17-2009, 04:05 PM
Tis' aye.

marky
03-20-2009, 09:44 AM
Woolton Picture House was being used as a film set for "Nowhere Boy" a few days ago.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2009/03/18/nowhere-boy-movie-stars-film-at-john-lennon-s-childhood-liverpool-haunts-100252-23172885/

Ross08
03-20-2009, 12:16 PM
The little building on the corner! = Ma Egerton's I think

It certainly is, and coming up to lunchtime on a nice day - this could be the perfect time for 'alf a Guinness and a ham batch in Ma 'Edgy's.

PhilipG
03-24-2009, 11:51 PM
News theatres were small cinemas showing news and cartoons and were usually in cities and large towns.
Most of them were called Tatler, a registered name controlled by Capital and Provincial News Theatres Ltd. It was rare for any one town to have more than one news theatre.
The Tatler in Church Street, Liverpool opened in 1934. It wasn't the first in the country, as somebody (Mr Ackroyd?) claims. The entrance to it was in what had been the UK's first Woolworths store. All Tatlers were taken over by Classic Cinemas and Church Street reopened in October 1968 as the Classic and showed feature films. This phase lasted less than a year and it reopened in September 1969 as the Tatler Cinema Club. By this time Classic only used the Tatler name for their sex cinemas, and in December 1972 the Tatler Cinema Club moved to the former Kings in London Road. Church Street then became the Classic Cartoon Cinema, only to close rather abruptly in March 1973 "for redevelopment". For a number of years the auditorium was used by Solitaire (ladies' fashions), but the cinema has since been dismantled.
In 1936 the Prince of Wales cinema in Clayton Square became a news theatre called the Prince of Wales News and Feature Theatre. It became the Liverpool News Theatre in 1946, when it was taken over by Jacey. In 1962 it became the Gala International Film Theatre, showing Continental films, and in 1963 was renamed the Jacey. It closed in 1972 with X-rated films, and then became a church called The Shrine of the Blessed Sacrament.


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Ged
03-25-2009, 10:26 AM
Thanks Philip. :PDT11

lindylou
03-25-2009, 10:35 AM
That's interesting.

So when we've been looking at clothes in Solitaire, we've actually been standing in the auditorium !! ??
Solitaire is still open. It never crossed my mind that it's where the cinema used to be.

Great info Philip :PDT11

PhilipG
03-25-2009, 09:06 PM
Hi Ged and Lindylou.
Has it gone back to Solitaire?
It was Bon Marche for quite a while.

In case anyone's wondering, we're talking about Williamson Street.

tony parker
03-25-2009, 10:46 PM
there was a book called dream palaces off liverpool any help

lindylou
03-25-2009, 11:29 PM
Hi Ged and Lindylou.
Has it gone back to Solitaire?
It was Bon Marche for quite a while.

In case anyone's wondering, we're talking about Williamson Street.

Solitaire is next door to Bon Marche so the shops must cover the area of the former cinema.

Ged
03-26-2009, 10:45 AM
there was a book called dream palaces off liverpool any help

Hiya Tony.

That book was by Harold Ackroyd and here is a snippet from Philip's posting (just above)


''The Tatler in Church Street, Liverpool opened in 1934. It wasn't the first in the country, as somebody (Mr Ackroyd?) claims.''


I don't know enough about the subject matter but trust Philip's research more in this field.


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PhilipG
03-26-2009, 08:38 PM
Thanks Ged.
The 2/6 postal order is on its way. :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Ged
03-27-2009, 11:59 AM
That's fine ;)

Do you still want a pic of the front of the popular?

PhilipG
03-27-2009, 12:07 PM
That's fine ;)

Do you still want a pic of the front of the popular?

Yes please!!

Ged
03-27-2009, 12:28 PM
On the way via email. :)

lindylou
03-29-2009, 01:07 PM
Hi Ged and Lindylou.
Has it gone back to Solitaire?
It was Bon Marche for quite a while.

In case anyone's wondering, we're talking about Williamson Street.


re Solitaire and Bonmarche.
took this photo yesterday - so they are on the site of the former auditorium ?

PhilipG
03-29-2009, 11:40 PM
re Solitaire and Bonmarche.
took this photo yesterday - so they are on the site of the former auditorium ?

That's it - right in the middle of your photo.
The one with the three arches. :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

Ged
03-30-2009, 02:05 PM
I always thought the canopy with Tatler on it and the entrance was in Church St though?

Mollie
03-30-2009, 06:27 PM
Hi I'm new here and am amazed at the wealth of information. People are really interesting. :)

I was just wondering if anyone had any photos of the inside foyer of the old Odeon on Allerton Road? My family lives nearby and my dad phoned to say the 'new' Classic had been closed down. What a shame, we spent many happy hours there and in the old cinema on the same site. I'd love to see some pics of the inside of the old cinema, it was all marble pillars with a goldfish pond in the middle - to a kid it was like a palace. We went to the Saturday morning pictures there for years.

Here's hoping !

wsteve55
03-30-2009, 06:50 PM
I always thought the canopy with Tatler on it and the entrance was in Church St though?

You're right Ged,
pic' as previously posted! Not the clearest,but you can make out "Tatler".
Steve.

Sirob
03-30-2009, 09:42 PM
Hi I'm new here and am amazed at the wealth of information. People are really interesting. :)

I was just wondering if anyone had any photos of the inside foyer of the old Odeon on Allerton Road? My family lives nearby and my dad phoned to say the 'new' Classic had been closed down. What a shame, we spent many happy hours there and in the old cinema on the same site. I'd love to see some pics of the inside of the old cinema, it was all marble pillars with a goldfish pond in the middle - to a kid it was like a palace. We went to the Saturday morning pictures there for years.

Here's hoping !
Although blurred, here is the fountain/goldfish bowl, also the auditorium.
Taken April 1971

Samp
03-30-2009, 09:52 PM
You're right Ged,
pic' as previously posted! Not the clearest,but you can make out "Tatler".
Steve.


Didn't it have a Kardoma cafe inside the foyer?

Samp
03-30-2009, 09:55 PM
Although blurred, here is the fountain/goldfish bowl, also the auditorium.
Taken April 1971


Hello Sirob.

Geds got a picture of the Popular cinema!

I've still got your DVD of the railways, send an Email!

lindylou
03-30-2009, 10:08 PM
The Tatler building then and now - - I'm a bit confused because the building I photographed is on a corner- Church st/Williamson st, yet the older photo shows it as being further in the middle of the block.

ItsaZappathing
03-30-2009, 10:10 PM
Brilliant as usual Sirob. :PDT11

ChrisGeorge
03-30-2009, 10:18 PM
The Tatler building then and now - - I'm a bit confused because the building I photographed is on a corner- Church st/Williamson st, yet the older photo shows it as being further in the middle of the block.


Hello Lindy

My recollection is that it was in the middle of the block so the brick building you're showing must be a different building, I think.

Chris

lindylou
03-30-2009, 10:22 PM
Yes, I am a bit mixed up now :PDT_Aliboronz_11:

I did think at the time that my recollection of the cinema was not of it being a corner building.

I photographed Solitaire and Bon Marche which are both next door to each other in Williamson st. I expect Philip will unravel the mystery :)

edit - as an afterthought, I think Solitaire have moved premises once or twice, so I am guessing that they may have been in a shop on Church st then moved around the corner to Williamson st ??
I wonder if anyone can remember.

ChrisGeorge
03-30-2009, 10:46 PM
Hi Lindy

It looks to me as if the lower building that is at the right in the first color shot, next to the tall corner building, is the same one that is on the left hand side of the period black and white view showing the Tatler. The windows look the same.

Chris

wsteve55
03-31-2009, 12:39 AM
Didn't it have a Kardoma cafe inside the foyer?

Well, I was only a kid,but I do remember an expresso machine,on a counter!:nod:

Mollie
03-31-2009, 01:33 PM
Although blurred, here is the fountain/goldfish bowl, also the auditorium.
Taken April 1971

oh thank you so much Sirob, my dad will be made up to see these :)

Sirob
03-31-2009, 10:52 PM
oh thank you so much Sirob, my dad will be made up to see these :)
Have two more then, the facade and the projection room

PhilipG
04-01-2009, 02:31 AM
Great photos, Sirob.

The Tatler in Church Street.
The entrance was in Church Street, underneath the canopy, then you walked down a corridor the full length of the building till you came to the side of the auditorium, which led to Williamson Street.
I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned the very long entrance.


Here are some extracts from my history of the building:

"The plans of the Tatler News Comedy Theatre were received by the Building Surveyors' Dept, in August 1933 of the conversion of part of 25 Church Street which had been shops. The building is Victorian, and is listed. Photos exist showing it in 1886, looking very much as it does today (above ground floor level)."

.............

"The premises were L-shaped long before they became a News Theatre, certainly before 1890. At the rear of 25 Church Street the building turns left and continues to Williamson Street. This section contained the auditorium. The entrance in Church Street was just that - a long entrance."

............

"The former cinema, without many alterations, reopened in September 1974 as a trendy clothes shop called Solitaire."

............

Subsequently there were some rather tatty operators in what had been the auditorium area, which is now occupied by Bon Marche.
If Solitaire have reappeared they must be next door.


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lindylou
04-01-2009, 10:15 AM
Thanks Philip. :)

ItsaZappathing
04-01-2009, 10:30 AM
Have two more then, the facade and the projection room

Nice one Sirob.:PDT11

Mollie
04-01-2009, 11:34 PM
Have two more then, the facade and the projection room

my goodness Sirob, you are a star! So great to see the facade and a bit of the old dairy building next door. The pictures was massive wasn't it? had a great atmosphere too, you felt like you'd really been out for a night when you went there.
When I was about 8 over there at the Saturday morning flicks, I ran and slipped and fell on the marble foyer floor banging my head on one of those pillars and cutting my forehead open good style. Got taken into the managers office and he sent someone over to fetch my mum. He told me off for running around even though I had to go and have quite a few stitches - you can still see the scar now 40+ years later! He told my mum I was bleeding like a 'stuck pig'! hahaa, I'll never forget that phrase :D

taffy
04-06-2009, 12:02 PM
Hi I'm new here and am amazed at the wealth of information. People are really interesting. :)

I was just wondering if anyone had any photos of the inside foyer of the old Odeon on Allerton Road? My family lives nearby and my dad phoned to say the 'new' Classic had been closed down. What a shame, we spent many happy hours there and in the old cinema on the same site. I'd love to see some pics of the inside of the old cinema, it was all marble pillars with a goldfish pond in the middle - to a kid it was like a palace. We went to the Saturday morning pictures there for years.

Here's hoping !

Here's a photo for you. Source unknown

Ross08
09-03-2009, 02:06 PM
It's a bit of a long-shot this one, but has anybody got any information on the building that is now the Mecca Bingo in Chester city centre.
It's probably been a cinema or theatre, I would think - and I'd say it's older than most (i.e pre-thirties)....

I'd be grateful if anybody could shed some light.

Howie
09-03-2009, 02:32 PM
Crosby Plaza Cinema celebrates its 70th anniversary
Sep 3 2009
by Laura Sharpe, Liverpool Daily Post

A MERSEYSIDE cinema that has fought for survival for the last 70 years will celebrate its anniversary by showing a film that, like itself, was almost lost to the cutting-room floor of history.

This weekend, audiences at the much-loved Crosby Plaza Cinema will be transported back to when the cinema first opened its doors in 1939.

Cinema staff will be dressed in 1940s costumes for a special screening of the 70-year-old Wizard of Oz.

The film was almost destroyed after it was first shown because of poor reviews, but like the Plaza, it survived and is now an age-old classic.

The Plaza?s colourful history started with the shortest-ever opening.

It opened on September 2, 1939, but closed just hours later because of air raids.

It eventually reopened two weeks later.

Cinema manager Chris Halliday said: ?The Wizard of Oz seemed appropriate as it?s the same age as the Plaza and will look fantastic on the big screen.

?We want to reflect the history of the Plaza and all our staff will be in costume. We have an original Gone With the Wind trailer, sandbags and Union Jack flags.?

Over the years, the Plaza has had to fight for survival and once stood proudly among four other cinemas across Waterloo and Crosby.

Ironically, despite battling for popularity alongside multiplex cinemas, the Plaza itself played a part in the history of the multiplex.

In 1976, it was one of the first cinemas to become a triplex, after a ?100,000 scheme converted what was then called the Classic Cinema.

Continues (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2009/09/03/crosby-plaza-cinema-celebrates-its-70th-anniversary-92534-24596540/2/) >>

Ged
09-19-2009, 03:55 PM
Eyes down at the Top Rank bingo hall in Dingle.

Seen elsewhere on this thread as a cinema.


http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/9858/toprankbingodingle.jpg (http://img14.imageshack.us/i/toprankbingodingle.jpg/)




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scouse smurf
09-19-2009, 04:32 PM
Wonder what they would make of todays bingo halls and prizes

wsteve55
09-19-2009, 04:49 PM
Wonder what they would make of todays bingo halls and prizes

Are there many left,after the fag ban?

scouse smurf
09-19-2009, 05:07 PM
Are there many left,after the fag ban?

Well, I know where a cpl are and they have national prize games now. Would rather go the bingo at the fair anyday lol

George
09-19-2009, 06:29 PM
Crosby Plaza Cinema celebrates its 70th anniversary
Sep 3 2009
by Laura Sharpe, Liverpool Daily Post

A MERSEYSIDE cinema that has fought for survival for the last 70 years will celebrate its anniversary by showing a film that, like itself, was almost lost to the cutting-room floor of history.

This weekend, audiences at the much-loved Crosby Plaza Cinema will be transported back to when the cinema first opened its doors in 1939.

Cinema staff will be dressed in 1940s costumes for a special screening of the 70-year-old Wizard of Oz.



Bet yer a choc-ice was still at todays prices though. :rolleyes:

wsteve55
09-19-2009, 09:13 PM
I'm sure they were George,but a fair price to pay for a local, cinema! How they've managed to keep going,till now,is a tribute to all involved,and though I dont go to the cinema much,when I do,it's there!

scouse smurf
09-19-2009, 09:49 PM
I'm sure they were George,but a fair price to pay for a local, cinema! How they've managed to keep going,till now,is a tribute to all involved,and though I dont go to the cinema much,when I do,it's there!

and long may it continue :)

wsteve55
09-19-2009, 10:01 PM
Recently came across the second pic' of two,of the "Palais de Luxe",which was in Lime st,almost next door to the Forum/ABC! The odd thing is,no-one seems to remember it,though It only went in the early 60's!(I think) And, also,that there had been another cinema, with the same name,(which may have been bombed in WW2 ?)for many years before! Anyone here, have any stories, or info'?



pic's courtesy of L.R.O.

Ged
09-19-2009, 11:14 PM
My pa in law remembers it and in fact only mentioned it last week on hol when he was having trouble reading the words to the karaoke song he was singing as the portable telly was that small. He remarked it was like being in the palais de luxe - as apparently it only had a very small screen.

lindylou
09-19-2009, 11:24 PM
My nan used to talk about the Palais de Luxe.

I just asked my dad .. he remembers it too and says it had a small screen.

Sirob
09-19-2009, 11:46 PM
The Palais de Luxe started life as a theatre, The Grand Tivoli, opening in December 1908. The name was changed in 1911. Pictures with the bioscope interspersed with acts. When it became a full time cinema is uncertain, but there was no space for the orchestra, which had to be placed on a gallery above the procsenium. The conductor watched the screen through a large mirror! Sound was introduced in 1930, but the gallery remained, unseen by most people.
Although damaged by bombs in the Second World War, a major fire in June 1951, resulted in reconstruction with the modern tiled facade. With a narrow proscenium, it was not suitable for wide screen films and declining admissions forced it's closure on 24 October 1959.
The site was re-developed with shops, a return to it's pre 1847 use, before entertainment buildings.

Ged
09-20-2009, 12:12 AM
Thank you Sirob.

wsteve55
09-20-2009, 12:37 AM
Thanks Sirob,and all,
some great info' there,and looking at the older pic',it does look like a traditional theatre! I wasn't sure of the date of the first pic',but checking the date of introduction of Triumph Herald's,gave me 1959, so that one must be brand new!

Howie
09-30-2009, 12:32 AM
http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/assets/_files/cached/img/402x301.5/sep_09/pnw__1254235168_Park_Road_former_cinema.jpg

Liverpool cinema building up for sale
29 Sep 2009, 15:21
Michael Hunt

A vacant former cinema and bingo hall at the junction of Park Road and Dingle Lane has been brought onto the market for investment opportunities.

The 13,544 sq ft building is currently subject to agreements with Orange, T Mobile, O2 and City Outdoor which produce a combined rental income of ?51,079.33 per annum.

Orange has a 20-year agreement from 1 July 2002 at a passing rent of ?11,765.04 per annum subject to five yearly rent reviews.

T Mobile also has 20-year agreement from 4 March 2003 at a passing rent of ?11,790.30 per annum subject to five yearly rent reviews.

O2 has 15-year lease from 9 August 2003 at a passing rent of ?15,523.99 per annum subject to five yearly rent reviews.

City Outdoor has agreed a three-year licence from 1 October this year at a passing rent of ?12,000 per annum.

Paul Parker, a principal surveyor at the Liverpool office for selling agents Edward Symmons, said: "Our client is seeking offers for the freehold interest or the rights to the rental income at a guide price of ?500,000."

The property was built in 1937 and includes a basement, ground and four upper floors.

Source: Place North West (http://www.placenorthwest.co.uk/news/archive/4392-liverpool-cinema-building-up-for-sale.html)

ItsaZappathing
10-07-2009, 10:01 PM
Tonights Nostalgia show on Radio Merseyside at 10pm is all about Liverpool Cinemas.

Ross08
10-30-2009, 07:33 PM
Ged - I've only just now seen your photo on post #688. Absolutely brilliant, thanks for adding it.
Reminds me of work though...

knowhowe
11-03-2009, 03:26 AM
It's a bit of a long-shot this one, but has anybody got any information on the building that is now the Mecca Bingo in Chester city centre.
It's probably been a cinema or theatre, I would think - and I'd say it's older than most (i.e pre-thirties)....
I'd be grateful if anybody could shed some light.

Hi there. Sorry this is a bit late- only just seen your request...

Anyway, that was the Gaumont Palace, Chester's first 'super cinema' which opened in 1931.

You can read a little about it, and see some pictures, on my website here-

http://www.chesterwalls.info/gallery/cinema3.html

If anyone out there's got pics and info about anything Chester I'd love to hear from them!

Ross08
12-29-2009, 04:22 PM
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/FormerGRANADAcinema-EastPrescotR-1.jpg
Former Granada Cinema, East Prescot Road, Dovecot

http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/FormerCLUBMOORPictureHouseTownsendL.jpg
Former Clubmoor Picture House, Townsend Lane, Clubmoor

pablo42
12-29-2009, 04:24 PM
Nice one Ross.

Ged
12-29-2009, 05:21 PM
And just to tie this into another popular thread on Yo, The Julia Wallace murder case. The clubmoor picture house is where Lily Lloyd played piano. It was she who gave Parry his alibi she later retracted.

Ross08
12-30-2009, 10:07 PM
OK, this one's from out of town - but I thought I'd share it with you all anyway.

I came across the former Palace Cinema in Winsford this afternoon...


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/TheDrillHallDingleLane-Winsford-PIC.jpg

The Drill Hall in Dingle Lane was built by James Fowles and Sons of Winsford and was officially opened on 26th June 1901 by Lord Dundonald. The 3rd Volunteer Brigade of Winsford used it for their drill practices after returning from South Africa where they had supported the regular troops. By 1935 it no longer rang to military commands and had been converted into the Palace Cinema.

lindylou
03-16-2010, 12:24 PM
Took this yesterday, the Carlton, Green Lane.
Wonder when something is going to happen regarding this cinema ?? It's been pending for years.

steveb
03-16-2010, 12:43 PM
Took this yesterday, the Carlton, Green Lane.
Wonder when something is going to happen regarding this cinema ?? It's been pending for years.

Hi
I see that it has been re boarded recently. There are actualy some pic,s of the inside on
28 days later, and it shows the projectors are still there. I will ask my contact in planning
what is happening

Steve

Ron Ham
03-16-2010, 12:54 PM
My Mam was a cleaner in the Carlton during the war & used to get a free pass for 2 every month & she took me to see the best films in the best seats on the balcony , like 'The Great Waltz' etc. & the organist who played , sheer luxury . Ron

steveb
03-23-2010, 07:14 PM
Took this yesterday, the Carlton, Green Lane.
Wonder when something is going to happen regarding this cinema ?? It's been pending for years.

Hi

my contact in planning told me this

An application was submitted in 2008 to develop the former Coconut Grove and Lords P.H., West Derby Road/Green Lane. The proposal was to erect part five/part six/part seven-storey building comprising 80 no. apartments with mixed commercial/retail space (within use classes A1, A2, A3, A4, and B1), together with associated basement car parking and ancillary works.



This was granted planning permission by Planning Committee on 09/09/2008 subject to the applicant signing a legal agreement. This, as yet, is still ongoing.







Regards

wsteve55
03-23-2010, 11:47 PM
Is this anything to do with "Maghull"developments,who have more than a couple of stalled projects,at the moment?!

steveb
03-24-2010, 12:16 AM
Is this anything to do with "Maghull"developments,who have more than a couple of stalled projects,at the moment?!

not as far as I know. My own opinion is for the council to give a
deadline, and if not met, compulsory purchase it. I mean 25 years
is a bit silly for the place to be empty

lindac8941
03-24-2010, 01:09 PM
There was once a couple of cinemas in Prescot. Not sure what they were called But found this programme titled The Premier at The Parish Rooms in Prescot. I couldnt find any pics of it, but have found this programme. Also a pic of the site of the old Mayfair cinema in Derby Road Huyton, It is where Boots store now stands, you can still see part of the cinema above Boots.

Pinhani
03-24-2010, 01:22 PM
14265
The former Kwiksave building in Old Swan has just been demolished. The building was adjacent to the Regent Cinema which was independently owned by Wilkinson's funeral directors. In 1926, Robert Wilkinson formed the Regent Cinema Co. and the 1140 seater cinema was opened in October of that year and demolished in late 60's. Does anyone know what the Kwiksave building was prior to being a car showroom? It looks like it too may have been an early cinema.

lindylou
03-26-2010, 03:50 PM
Hi

my contact in planning told me this

An application was submitted in 2008 to develop the former Coconut Grove and Lords P.H., West Derby Road/Green Lane. The proposal was to erect part five/part six/part seven-storey building comprising 80 no. apartments with mixed commercial/retail space (within use classes A1, A2, A3, A4, and B1), together with associated basement car parking and ancillary works.



This was granted planning permission by Planning Committee on 09/09/2008 subject to the applicant signing a legal agreement. This, as yet, is still ongoing.







Regards

Thanks for info Steve :PDT11

CeeBee
04-06-2010, 04:12 PM
Hi there,

I'm doing research about The Commodore Cinema (now Armadillo self-storage) on Stanley Road, Bootle. The research is for my Final MA Fine Art Project - I'm interested in finding out about the building in its use as a cinema - does anyone know of any good contacts or other sites that I could follow up?

All the best,

Clare

Oddsocks
04-06-2010, 06:12 PM
Does anyone know what the Kwiksave building was prior to being a car showroom? It looks like it too may have been an early cinema.

It was the 'old' Regent. The forerunner to the Regent cinema that had its doorway in Baden Rd. A trip to Old Swan library might be a good source for photos.

Sirob
04-06-2010, 11:21 PM
Hi there,

I'm doing research about The Commodore Cinema (now Armadillo self-storage) on Stanley Road, Bootle. The research is for my Final MA Fine Art Project - I'm interested in finding out about the building in its use as a cinema - does anyone know of any good contacts or other sites that I could follow up?

All the best,

Clare

PM me and I can give you the information that you seek

hmtmaj
04-07-2010, 02:30 AM
It was the 'old' Regent. The forerunner to the Regent cinema that had its doorway in Baden Rd. A trip to Old Swan library might be a good source for photos.

pics and info my site, Mart

Ged
04-07-2010, 11:13 AM
infoon? Is that like a buffoon but more intelligent?

lindylou
04-07-2010, 12:03 PM
hee,hee, :)

Oddsocks
04-07-2010, 09:11 PM
[QUOTEThere was once a couple of cinemas in Prescot. Not sure what they were called[/QUOTE]

Hope this helps. The principal cinema in Prescot was 'The Lime House', and like other cinemas after the run down, was converted into a supermarket. Can't be positive, but I think it was Lennons.
I remember seeing some good films on there; Shane, Oklahoma, From Here to Eternity and more I can't bring to mind. Used to go 1st house every Tuesday with 'me mam' and go the chippy afterwards. Not many people had Television in those days, it was only about ten years after the war, so the 'fillims' was the usual means of family entertainment.

We moved up to Huyton from Old Swan in 1952 and I was born in Ulster Rd (1942), right opposite the Curzon.
But it was the Regent that held the Saturday Matinee for a tanner. Tarzan, Lash Larue had the star billing with Batman as the serial.
If you wanted to see Johnny Mac Brown you had to go to the New Premier at the corner of Green Lane.

If you wanted a black eye, you went to the Swan. Like other cinemas of the time when cash was tight could get in the Swan for the Saturday Matinee with two empty jam-jars.
But you had to make sure you took a gumshield and wore pumps for a fast getaway when the flix let out.

wsteve55
04-07-2010, 11:53 PM
infoon? Is that like a buffoon but more intelligent?

Just more trendy!:)

hmtmaj
04-08-2010, 12:21 PM
infoon? Is that like a buffoon but more intelligent?

I'll have to look out for your mistypes in future...
S.A.

Ged
04-08-2010, 01:11 PM
I'll have to make sure you can find none ;)

Oddsocks
04-08-2010, 02:36 PM
There was once a couple of cinemas in Prescot. Not sure what they were called.

The other was named the 'Picture Palace' in Kemble St.That was converted to a bingo hall in the late 60s or early 70s.

Kev
04-16-2010, 06:38 AM
Paramount Cinema London Road Liverpool 1934 Various Interior & Exterior Images courtesy LRO.

1) Interior - café.
2) Interior with screen.
3) Interior - foyer.
4) Exterior view with lights.

Here (http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?31029-Paramount-Cinema-London-Road-Liverpool-1934-Various-Interior-amp-Exterior-Images&p=255667#post255667)

Ged
05-23-2010, 12:45 AM
I don't know if this pic has ever been posted up before but it's the corner of Elliot St and Lime st pre ABC/Forum.


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8697/elliotsttwdslimestclive.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/elliotsttwdslimestclive.jpg/)

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scouse smurf
05-23-2010, 01:07 AM
Brilliant pic, Ged

Quentin_Sharples
05-23-2010, 01:38 AM
I don't know if this pic has ever been posted up before but it's the corner of Elliot St and Lime st pre ABC/Forum.


http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/8697/elliotsttwdslimestclive.jpg (http://img155.imageshack.us/i/elliotsttwdslimestclive.jpg/)

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I like that, Ged.
Not seen it before.
Note the original Blacklers store next door.
Built 1908.
Designed by W Aubrey Thomas (Royal Liver Building, etc.)

wsteve55
05-23-2010, 01:56 AM
Wow,great pic' Ged!I've never even thought what was there, before the A.B.C. Any idea of the date?

hmtmaj
05-23-2010, 02:14 AM
Brilliant pic Ged, where did you pluck that from :PDT11

lindylou
05-23-2010, 11:12 AM
Interesting pic. Thanks for posting Ged.

Davec
05-23-2010, 02:15 PM
Bleedin' 'ell Ged, that deserves an upper-case wow.......WOW

Ged
05-24-2010, 05:51 PM
Thanks all. Do you know what Mart, something to do with water over the or something :)

Only an idea of the date Steve. The adverts say the building's coming down before xmas for the construction of the ABC which was Quentin?........

Davec
05-24-2010, 06:03 PM
Was this it's 1st. incarnation? .....

http://www.cinema-theatre.org.uk/atrisk/forum_liverpool.htm

Ged
05-24-2010, 07:11 PM
I think so, so i'd put the pic at about 1929 maybe - how long would it have taken back then to build the cinema?

Quentin_Sharples
05-24-2010, 07:49 PM
I think so, so i'd put the pic at about 1929 maybe - how long would it have taken back then to build the cinema?

Yes, Ged, 1929.
I've had to wait for a reply from somebody who knows.

He says:
"It was built by J A Milestone between 12 March 1930 and 18 May 1931.
The new cinema was announced in the Liverpool Echo dated 27 June 1929.
W Aubrey Thomas supplied plans in 1925 of a cinema to be built on the site, but that scheme wasn't followed through."

Just imagine if that had been built.
A cinema by the architect of the Royal Liver Building.

scouse smurf
05-24-2010, 11:23 PM
I reckon it's worth reposting this, incase any of the newer members ain't seen these photos

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?4956-Forum-Cinema-Lime-Street

gregs dad
06-14-2010, 01:54 PM
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4699080627_a60bd85d04_b.jpg
The old Princess cinema is still standing on the junction of Selwyn St and Brewster St

Ged
06-14-2010, 02:08 PM
Nice pic Joe. See inside the place near the bottom of this page.

http://inacityliving.piczo.com/?g=51055098&cr=7


.

Kev
06-14-2010, 02:32 PM
I reckon it's worth reposting this, incase any of the newer members ain't seen these photos

http://www.yoliverpool.com/forum/showthread.php?4956-Forum-Cinema-Lime-Street

Thanks SS. I thought Snappels pics had all been taken off his site, obviously not :)

Ged
06-14-2010, 02:59 PM
It's a pity his old Royal infirmary ones have, I was looking for those only a couple of months ago.

gregs dad
06-14-2010, 04:22 PM
[QUOTE=Ged;281450]Nice pic Joe. See inside the place near the bottom of this page.

My first date with my wife was in there on New years day 1955 after meeting up with her on New Years eve outside St Mary`s Church,Walton, where people used to gather to let the new year in.
We then went back to her friends for an all night party and made a date to meet outside the Princess.
She had to travel from Old Swan while I just walked up from Kirkdale but I did see her home safe,as always a gentleman. The picture was Seven Brides for Seven Brothers and I bought the ice creams.

Ged
06-14-2010, 04:47 PM
Nice Joe. Felt safe on home territory eh? :)

gowshika
08-23-2010, 01:49 PM
For some reason I always thought the cinema was further back off the road. I remember it

being the Odeon, then renamed the Classic. Everyone still called it the Odeon. There was a milk dairy behind the cinema. I knew a girl whoes dad owned the

dairy and lived there. The road to the left is a service road and is still there.

The whole area of Penny Lane/Allerton Road had no pubs. A very

large area - odd for Liverpool. The nearest pubs were the Brook House in Smithdown Rd and the Rose of Mossley right up Rose Lane. This has now changed with

the wine bars and the likes along Allerton Road making this road quite an animated place.

Thanks for sharing

Ged
02-06-2011, 09:51 PM
The old Derby Cinema on Scotland Road reveals it's sign and other bits of writing on the side wall after having its cladding removed.


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4481/derbycinema1.jpg (http://img138.imageshack.us/i/derbycinema1.jpg/)

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Ged
02-27-2011, 10:23 PM
A new Liverpool Cinemas publication from the Liverpool Echo archives. Lots of great photographs in it.


http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7048/cinemabook.jpg (http://img16.imageshack.us/i/cinemabook.jpg/)

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One for Mart, the New Premier in Prescot Road near Green Lane. Latterly the Premier pub but now closed.


http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/203/newpremiercinemaoldswan.jpg (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/newpremiercinemaoldswan.jpg/)

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And one for Zappa, The Regal in Norris Green.


http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/6563/regalcinemanorrisgreen.jpg (http://img811.imageshack.us/i/regalcinemanorrisgreen.jpg/)

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If you want to see anymore, you'll have to buy it ;)

steveb
02-27-2011, 10:26 PM
Nice, Ged. Were can one buy it ?

Steve

Ged
02-27-2011, 10:55 PM
I've noticed it in a few newsagents and petrol stations Steve. :PDT11

gregs dad
02-28-2011, 12:33 PM
The Premier was our regular friday night out when we were courting, push bike from Kirkby to Old Swan pick the wife up from her home walk along Church Rd and we were there.Often riding home at 2 in the morning.

Ross08
03-09-2011, 05:52 PM
A few cuttings of Wirral cinema adverts from the eighties:


http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i36/taxipix/cinads.jpg

ellergreen
03-09-2011, 06:43 PM
Such a long thread, I'm not sure if this has been posted earlier.

http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=fYY1PB2aCQA&feature=related

btw any photos of the old Gem cinema Vescock Sstreet??

Ged
03-09-2011, 09:24 PM
I've got a pic of the Gem but only as the Gem Social Club in the 80s. It was a pretty uninspiring looking building, not one you'd associate with the lavish cinema architecture of the big ones.

steveb
03-10-2011, 01:30 PM
Iam still looking for a pic of the old cabbage hall cinema.
Have tried all sources, without any success at all

Ged
03-10-2011, 01:33 PM
Sirob from this site now has one and will be including it in his new Cinema book.

lindylou
03-10-2011, 02:22 PM
Iam still looking for a pic of the old cabbage hall cinema.
Have tried all sources, without any success at all

Don't forget me if you ever find one! :)
I'd love to see a photo of the old Cabbage cinema. I'd like to see any of that end of Lower Breck rd in general. (that end was formerly called Rochester rd).

The annoying thing is that we've got a couple of family snaps taken right by there 1930s, but the camera is facing the Willow Bank pub and not the cinema !:PDT_Xtremez_42:

Oudeis
03-10-2011, 02:45 PM
Please excuse all and any geographical ignorance I inadvertently display...

http://liberator31.co.uk/wallasey/mansions_the_breck/index.html

Alas Cabbage Hall Cinema may be too vague a description for it yielded nothing. :(

Ged
03-10-2011, 03:19 PM
I think everybody's been down that road Oudeis (pardon the pun)

Sirob found it by investigative work that was quite clever. As it's the only copy, i'm pretty much sure he wants it kept secret how he got it so that it's the only one of its kind in his forthcoming book.

steveb
03-10-2011, 03:23 PM
Please excuse all and any geographical ignorance I inadvertently display...

http://liberator31.co.uk/wallasey/mansions_the_breck/index.html

Alas Cabbage Hall Cinema may be too vague a description for it yielded nothing. :(

Have tried all sorts of things. It is Lower breck road, taken over by LFC supporters as a club
and the front was re built. I have tried LFC, the architechs who did the plan for the new front
Liverpool Echo archives, LRO and looked for it on cinema treasures etc, all to no avail.
Yes will do Lindy, my gran worked the box there and did the ice cream round

lindylou
03-10-2011, 06:38 PM
Yes will do Lindy, my gran worked the box there and did the ice cream round

yes, my nan knew your nan :nod: :)

Oudeis
03-10-2011, 06:58 PM
my nan 'n' your nan
would gab on 'n' on
while folk gawped 'n' grew an appetite
for them half time ices

my nan 'n' your nan
knew well they who
were sat at the back
in the dark a-hidin'

my nan 'n' your nan
would look on in scorn
at those that mixed with married
'n' they'd both have a heart attack at seein' today's prices

steveb
03-10-2011, 07:56 PM
yes, my nan knew your nan :nod: :)

Oh Right. She was Gladys Knibb, and lived round the corner
in Winchester Road

lindylou
03-10-2011, 09:35 PM
Yes, I remember your family Steve. Your sister was in my class at school and my mum knew your mum. :)

Oudeis
03-10-2011, 09:41 PM
Yes, I remember your family Steve. Your sister was in my class at school and my mum knew your mum. :)

This is beginning to sound like a missing scene from Star Wars. :)

Ged
03-11-2011, 01:18 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yac8QygzwP0

GeorgePorgie
03-11-2011, 01:25 AM
Cilla Black aka Cilla White.....
Ya know her name was taboo in our house in Abion Street,me Ma gave us a clout if someone mentioned it...dunno why?

Ged
03-11-2011, 01:30 AM
Pricilla if ya don't mind.


http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/5363/96530896.jpg (http://img856.imageshack.us/i/96530896.jpg/)

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Oudeis
03-11-2011, 02:11 AM
I have had another little look for the Cabbage Hall cinema,ah well Rome was not built in a day. I came across the life story of Al Wildman who was born in Twickenham Road in 1914. The 49 pages of pdf make mention of visits to the cinema and much else...

www.wildies.org.uk/Downloads/Memoirs.pdf

---------- Post added at 01:11 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:08 AM ----------

Not big on photography though.

I did shorten the link above to have a look at the site to read that the life story "... including the part he played in a celebrated murder trial"

So you may have heard of this guy before.

Ronijayne
03-11-2011, 05:30 AM
This is a good story, I am up to chapter 12 so to be continued tomorrow!

Ged
03-11-2011, 11:53 AM
Al Wildman also figured in the notorious Wallace case of 1931.

lindylou
03-11-2011, 12:16 PM
Thanks Oudeis, I know Twickenham st very well.

I have bookmarked the link and will read later.

Ronijayne
03-11-2011, 05:34 PM
Al Wildman also figured in the notorious Wallace case of 1931.

Shuddup you, I am only up to chapter 12:shock:

Ged
03-11-2011, 05:59 PM
Read faster then ;)

Ronijayne
03-11-2011, 08:12 PM
Read faster then ;)

:protest::protest::protest:

ItsaZappathing
03-11-2011, 08:16 PM
Not sure if this helps anyone...
http://cinematreasures.org/theater/33335/

steveb
03-11-2011, 09:10 PM
Not sure if this helps anyone...
http://cinematreasures.org/theater/33335/

Yes, I have seen this as I look in cinema treasures a lot, but
like so many entries, no pic.

Ronijayne
03-11-2011, 11:38 PM
Chapter 22. To be continued

Ronijayne
03-12-2011, 03:50 AM
Finished, charming story.

marky
03-13-2011, 08:17 PM
A large section of the Odeon (Pudsey Street part) was demolished this afternoon.

Ronijayne
03-13-2011, 08:28 PM
Do so many buildings need demolishing? I would love to see them helped out. I am still upset I saw the Welsh houses and Admiral Street houses were going. So sad

Ged
03-13-2011, 10:01 PM
Have tried all sorts of things. It is Lower breck road, taken over by LFC supporters as a club
and the front was re built. I have tried LFC, the architechs who did the plan for the new front
Liverpool Echo archives, LRO and looked for it on cinema treasures etc, all to no avail.
Yes will do Lindy, my gran worked the box there and did the ice cream round

For Lindylou too.


Not the best pic but apparently, the only one of it.

Pictured in 1967 with Mike Georgeson of Georgeson's garage, facing the Cinema and established in 1955 - hence the photo.

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9097/cabbagehallcinema1967mi.jpg (http://img291.imageshack.us/i/cabbagehallcinema1967mi.jpg/)

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lindylou
03-14-2011, 12:06 AM
Note the phone box on the corner in the old pic. There was always phone boxes located by the triangle.

I remember those advertisment hoardings too. We would sometimes play around the back of them on the waste ground. Flats were eventually built there, but have recently been demolished last November.
Here is the gap next to the LFC Supporters club (the old Cabbage cinema).

steveb
03-14-2011, 01:16 AM
Note the phone box on the corner in the old pic. There was always phone boxes located by the triangle.

I remember those advertisment hoardings too. We would sometimes play around the back of them on the waste ground. Flats were eventually built there, but have recently been demolished last November.
Here is the gap next to the LFC Supporters club (the old Cabbage cinema).

Yes I remember them as well. Between the hordings and cinema was a gap
that led down to the rear entrance, similarly, down the left of the cinema was
a walkway to the other entrance were on saturdays we used go down with our
jam jars as entrance fee. Behind the front window was the box office. Inside
to the right you had stairs going upto the projection room... All coming back
to me now :-)

Steve

Sirob
03-15-2011, 01:34 PM
This is for Lindylou, from April 1965

http://i468.photobucket.com/albums/rr43/Sirob_bucket/c1546aApril1965.jpg

Ged
03-15-2011, 01:40 PM
Great Sirob. How's this book coming along. I think the bible was written quicker?

lindylou
03-15-2011, 05:17 PM
Thanks so much Sirob :PDT_Piratz_26:

Those hoardings .. we used to get a foothold in those gaps and brave climbing up as high as we dare. I think I only did it once ! My mum would have gone mad if she'd seen me !! :shock: :)

There must have been a bit of a grass verge there on the edge of the pavement, I can't quite remember it, but those trees must have been replanted further back. I think they widened the road and pavement. The bus stop is still in the same place.
You can see here on this Google map link the flats I mentioned -

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=anield&ie=UTF8&hl=en&sll=53.42397,-2.947211&sspn=0.007928,0.021887&rq=1&ev=p&split=1&radius=0.54&hq=anield&hnear=&ll=53.427039,-2.948885&spn=0,0.021887&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.427105,-2.94903&panoid=eWLao5MDxLXELGCnnkBj8w&cbp=12,338.05,,1,5

Sirob
03-15-2011, 11:01 PM
Great Sirob. How's this book coming along. I think the bible was written quicker?

The bible was not held up by publishers delaying tactics!:gnasher:

Ged
03-16-2011, 01:00 AM
Really, didn't they say keep taking the tablets?

gregs dad
03-19-2011, 09:25 PM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5133/5540876494_1d3381e8a6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exacta2a/5540876494/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5259/5540294151_b40b5acae6_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/exacta2a/5540294151/)

The Odeon in it`s death throes

Oudeis
03-19-2011, 10:07 PM
Oh, cine-ma
said cine-da
where shall the children play

where once was dark
the sky's now stark
they've stolen the thrill away

no more shall fright
the coloured light
not Odeon, but Ode-off today

Prefrab
03-20-2011, 10:20 AM
Great pictures greg's dad The Odeon brings back some early memories.
The Odeon was the first cinema I can remember going to, I was 6 and it was just before Christmas and we saw The Guns Of Navarone , went to TJ's grotto first and I got a plastic aircraft carrier as a present, I lost one of the little aircraft off the deck in the dark during the film, never did find it

Ged
06-17-2011, 10:17 PM
A must I would have thought for at least 2 cinema buffs on this forum.


http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29=%27FACTORY%27%29&dsqPos=358

Marty1
06-17-2011, 10:29 PM
A must I would have thought for at least 2 cinema buffs on this forum.


http://archive.liverpool.gov.uk/dserve.exe?dsqIni=Dserve.ini&dsqApp=Archive&dsqCmd=Show.tcl&dsqDb=Catalog&dsqSearch=%28%28text%29=%27FACTORY%27%29&dsqPos=358


Where is the Liton, I think it was called ?

Sirob
06-17-2011, 10:45 PM
The Lytton cinema was on Lytton Street, of Everton Road. Opened in 1911, it had 580 seats and no balcony. Not one of the major circuit houses, it lasted until 1959. Following use as a tobacco wholesalers, it was demolished in the late 1960's.

Marty1
06-17-2011, 11:09 PM
was on Lytton Street, of Everton Road. Opened in 1911, it had 580 seats and no balcony. Not one of the major circuit houses, it lasted until 1959. Following use as a tobacco wholesalers, it was demolished in the late 1960's.

Thanks for that Sirob, I remember going to the Lytton but can't remember what was on at the time, 3d it cost me to get in, we called it the flea pit, most cinemas were at that time !!

Sirob
06-18-2011, 10:42 PM
21717

Glad to help, Marty 1. Here is the site of the Lytton, taken May of this year. I do not have a pic of it, but can remember it closed.

Marty1
06-18-2011, 10:52 PM
Glad to help, Marty 1. Here is the site of the Lytton, taken May of this year. I do not have a pic of it, but can remember it closed.

Thanks again Sirob, after the Lytton I went up market to the Hippy, we went in via the fire escape when sagging school, happy times !